Thursday, September 2, 2010

Krishna is not a myth, he is a reality!




A unique documentary produced by Saraswati Films Inc., on the existence of Krishna and  the scientific proof of Mahabharata with the exact year of Kurukshetra war can be viewed here:-
Krishna: History or Myth

Dr Narahari Achar's explanation on how he arrived at the date is also part of this documentary.

Yet another research on the same question of date of Mahabharata and Sri Krishna done by Mr. Ramesh Panchwagh can be read here :-
http://drishtikone.com/blog/astronomical-proof-mahabharata-war-and-shri-krishna-part-i


Related posts from this blog:-

Krishna, a reality – archeological proof.

The sky map at the time of Mahabharata war.




15 comments:

Manish said...

jetablLet me enumerate the set of data required for the Mahabharata war:
1> Three solar eclipses as follows: Solar eclipse 1 in a period 13-15 years before the war, Solar eclipse 2 in the year of the war, Solar eclipse 3 was 36 years later.
2> Triad of eclipses in the year of the war: Lunar eclipse at Kartika, Solar eclipse at Antares followed by a lunar eclipse 13 tithis later.
3> The triad of lunar, solar and lunar eclipse repeats 36 years later.
4> Saturn retrogressing at Aldebaran or Rohini
5> Mars retrogressing at Antares.
There are many more criteria, The date given by Dr. Narahari Achar is the only one which satisfies the basic core criteria.
This date is 3067BC.
See the video on this at

www.vimeo.com/14466776

Mr Panchwagh's article basically does not even go into one of the astronomical phenomena talked about above.
Thanks.

Anonymous said...

It only proves that the star formations mentioned were there sometimes in the past. In so many historical novels story is based in certain period. Yhose facts may be right but the story is fictional.

For example if i right a story where i mention the same astronomical details as mentioned in Mahabharata, does it mean my story is also true.

Similarly if i write a story set during world war then it automatically becomes true because world war facts mentioned may be true.

jayasree said...

Mr Anonymous,

I think you have not read Mahabharata and the numerous astro details - which can not be said unless the writer had witnessed them and recorded then and there. There was no software or other means in those days to exactly build up the condiitons on the sky. Not only about stars and planets there are numerous accounts of terrestrial happenings that are found in the Mahabharata. One example is the description in 2 chapters on the strange behaviour of flora and fauna and atmospheric conditions following the 13th day New Moon which almost resembles the after effect of a asteroid hit on the earth. It has been recently found out that in the corresponding period an astroid had landed in central Europe. It offers a valuable clue to relate the description in Mahabharata that almost resembles the condiitions that can be seen and felt in the aftermath of such a hit in a neighboring region.

There are many such information that can not be dismissed as products of imagination.

I challenge you to write a similar story with vast true inputs of a time in past without the use of any modern equipment.

You have compared the setting of a story based on world war. As you said, the war was true. But when you attempt to write a ficitonal strory around the war scene, and want to give it a semblance of a true story, you will have to talk about the true heros of the war and the true attributes and weave the story around the true incidents. Unless you do that you can not make your readers believe that your story is a true account. seen in that way, Mahabharata was true and its main hero, Krishna was undoubtedly true.

Anonymous said...

Well certainly Mahabharata is very detailed and u have assumed such details can not be mere imaginations and there has to be reality behind the. That is one point of view and i still think that it is nothing more than a work of fiction although very well written, very detailed.

One point:

1 It is said that the total size of the army of both the factions was around 4 millions.

There are different views on when the war happened. Let us assume that Mahabharata happened around 3500 years ago. Since many kings participated in that war let us assume that the area represented by the kings was around 1/4 of what is now called India.

Around 3500 years ago world population was around 40 million and it is said that the population of what is India today was around 10 million. So the kings who participated in that war represented around 2.5 million people.

In todays time population to army ratio is 0.1%. But even if we take it as 0.5% then the size of the combined army would have been around 12500 men. It is not of epic proportions as 4 million men fighting.

Some people even gave the time of Mahabharata ranging from 3000 BC or even 5000 BC.

If Mahabharata happened in 5000 BC then the world population was around 5 million people and so the
size of the armies at war gets reduced to around 1500 men.

So much for Mahabharata being based on facts.

Incidentally the combined strength of the armies of China, India and Pakistan would be less 4 million but they represent a population of over 250 crore.

jayasree said...

Please don't write on the basis of conjectures. Read Mahabharata to know the number of tribes, kingdoms, people and the list of people who participated in the war. May be you can list them down to arrive at the total numbers who participated and separate fact from ficiton. Then you will know the sheer vastness of Bharat and the number of kingdoms and the population density at that time. Even as late as the 1800s, Bihar and Bengal had one lakh villages according to colonial records. Almost every village and town had been in existent for long enough and has some historical background.

Anonymous said...

May be u can enlighten me on that. So what according to you was the population of the area whose kings participated in the war. While at it please also tell me as to when this war happened because there are different times suggested by different people.

jayasree said...

Only you took up the population issue, so it is upto you to show how much is revealed in Mahabharata and dispute it. This blog of mine is about the factuality of the time period of Krishna. For periods of thousands of years, astronomy is the best aid to ascertain the time. The last link I have given in the article is exactly on that.

Scholars may have differed on the exact date of Mahabharat war, but the period falling in 3rd millennium BC is accepted by many. A good book to refer to is "The age of Mahabharata war" by Kota Venkatachelam.

Kaliyuga started 36 years after the Mahabharata war. The planetary alignment on that day is available in Surya siddhanta. You can download jhora astrology software and see that such an alignment occurred on Jan 22, 3100 BC. There is a discrepancy of within a year in different softwares. But the fact remains that such an alignment occurred 5000 years ago. 36 years before that Mahabharata war ended.

In fact the Indus- saraswathy settlements which are numbered more than 2000 as per current excavations were places where Arjuna settled the people of Dwaraka after it was submerged about 5000 years ago. The route of that migration as detailed in Musala parva takes you to Indus - saraswathy settlements. You may read my article and the map here:-

http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.in/2010/07/ivc-was-post-mahabharata-culture-world.html

You may read the inscriptional evidence of Mahabharata here - in grants made in Janamejaya's times.

http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.in/2011/11/inscriptional-evidence-for-mahabharata.html


There are many other articles in my blogspot detailing the antiquity of India. You may browse and read. I will give the link to a news report on scientists' view that Indian culture was 11000 years old.
http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.in/2011/08/indian-culture-more-than-11000-years.html

If you can read Tamil read my Tamil articles ( so far written 101 ) on antiquity of India on the basis of inter- disciplinary approach (underwater maps, inundation maps, earthquake info, genetics, literature, astronomy, archeology etc). The link is given the side bar on the blog page.

Vibhav Agrawal said...
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Vibhav Agrawal said...

Hi Jayasree,

Great Blog! Full of information, very much appreciated.

In the light of your knowledge could you do me a favor by answering some of my queries.

1) Do you know of any online link available, where from I can download a detailed version of Mahabharat ( preferably Hindi).

2) Going by your article and also some other sources, let's say we are convinced that the epic war was fought somewhere between 3100-3000 BCE. Also, the civilized human population can be dated back to as long back as 5000 BCE. So in light of above statement do you (or any other source you may be aware of) have any idea as to what was going around the world when the war was fought.

3) As far as I have learnt (may be misinterpreted) that the war was fought for the complete destruction of the then present life and the creation of new race - नवसर्जन. What were the effects of the war to the rest parts of the world?

Thanks in advance

jayasree said...

Hi Mr Vibhav. Thanks for the compliments.

1. Please do the google check and find out.

2. There is an old article by me posted in 2008 on countries and the kind of worship that existed at the time of Mahabharata. The link is http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.in/2008/02/countries-and-worship-that-existed.html
There is considerable info in Mahabharata itself on the people who lived on surrounding places. Check this link to easily access the various people and kingdoms mentioned in Mahabharata.

3. No. The war was basically a fight for territorial control over trade routes which was initially sparked off between two sets of cousins over share of their control over territory and was finally joined by almost all the kingdoms in and outside Bharat at that time who had interests in the control of regions that facilitated trade from Bharat to outside. The result of the war of wresting the control over trade routes from the Kauravas by the Pandavas which went via Gandhara, the mother land of Gandhari, mother of Kauravas. Trade flourished as a result and Indus civilisation was the product of that. Read my article " IVC was the post Mahabharat culture". The link is http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.in/2010/07/ivc-was-post-mahabharata-culture-world.html

Vibhav Agrawal said...

Thank you for the information and links :)

Vibhav Agrawal said...

Just one last question, from where or which book did you learn about Mahabharat can you please share the name of the book or the sources, because I want to make sure that if I buy a book (or volumes) its reliable. Thanks

Vibhav Agrawal said...

For example,

"Sanjaya's description of these countries
which he saw using his 'power to see' granted by sage Vyasa
for the main purpose of 'seeing' the war at Kurukshethra
and reporting it to the king Dhritharaashtra."

This level of detail is so intriguing. A literature that holds so much of insight would be gem.

jayasree said...

@Vibhav Agarwal,

When I started this blog my source of the Ithihasas were the old books possessed by our family, written more than 70 years ago. They were transliterations in Tamil from original sanskrit versions. There are old commentaries in the Ithihasas which were reproduced as foot notes in these books. These books are no longer available in print now. But nowadays you have the sanskrit versions and translations on the internet. For Ramayana I check http://www.valmikiramayan.net/

For Mahabharata Mr Jijith Nadumuri has done an excellent job for easy access to any topic or name in Mahabharata and other texts. Check this site http://ancientvoice.wikidot.com/

Yes, the Ithihasas are real gems and the source to unravel the past history of not only India but the whole world.

Vibhav Agrawal said...

Thanks a ton Jayasree for the help. Wish you luck for your book.