tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442555339667770589.post1403690128037904752..comments2024-03-18T22:56:06.696+05:30Comments on Jayasree Saranathan: Why people with better IQ fail to ‘detect’ God?Jayasree Saranathan http://www.blogger.com/profile/01048252011566427834noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442555339667770589.post-74130291386972196062011-10-07T12:15:47.599+05:302011-10-07T12:15:47.599+05:30@mosurh
I've read parts of the Upanishadic li...@mosurh<br /><br />I've read parts of the Upanishadic literature (Mundaka, Katha). True, I don't remember much now. There was a time when it had a huge influence on me. I have read a few verses from the Rig Veda. I'm no Vedic scholar. I have read Ramakrishna-Vivekananda literature extensively for many years and also the literature of Ramana Maharshi. I have read bits and pieces of Tripura Rahasya. I have read this work called Aparokshanubhuti by Adi Sankara. I have read many books published by Advaita Ashrama. This stuff was staple for about 7 years of my life. I used to apply myself for weeks to understand a stanza or a couplet. I used to believe that my life's aim was only Nirvikalpa Samadhi. I was seriously considering (more than you can imagine) the life of a monk. By that I do NOT mean joining any monastic order. I meant a life by myself without anyone to guide me. <br /><br />A life in science changed all that.<br /><br />I don't have beliefs anymore. I'm a non-believer. If you think I believe in Science, then you are mistaken. Science is NOT a dogma to be believed. It is the name given to a method of relentlessly questioning, experimenting and gathering reproducible facts. This definition of the scientific method runs in the face of all belief systems including God. Therefore your statement is fallacious: "Maybe they have reasoned that there is something which is beyond reason". Reason(or Science) does NOT allow for things beyond its own scope. If it does, then that very minute the practitioner is termed unreasonable/unscientific.<br /><br />If I come across as arrogant it is unintentional. Can you to stick to the topic in question and not get personal? <br /><br />"Even Einstein is close getting proved wrong by the recent CERN experiment." Firstly, Einstein never said he was right. If you think that's how scientists work then you cannot be farther from the truth. How qualified are you to comment on Einstein's work/ the CERN experiment? Please cite a list of books/articles/papers you may have read on Einstein's work. By the way, have you read the actual paper on the neutrino anomaly? Einstein's special theory of relativity is an approximation that works in a limited setting. If you are under the impression that his theory of relativity is the be all and end all of physics, then you are suffering from the lack of a physics education. There is no way I can convey STR through this blog. I can only exhort you to read his works and pick up standard graduate level textbooks on the subject. <br /><br />"It doesn't matter who propounded the theory". It does. If the person is of the stature of a Newton you can say with high certainty that his theory may not be completely inaccurate. In this case, Richard Dawkins has a well-established reputation as an evolutionary biologist, a reputation which is gauged by the number of times his works are cited in the scientific world. His contributions have been seminal. I'm not going to use this blog comment to discuss his academic stature. I leave that as an exercise to the reader.<br /><br />"I am entitled to my opinion." You are. But facts will remain facts irrespective of your opinions. You can choose to opine that an apple will not fall down when under free fall. But facts will run in the face of your opinion. <br /><br />You have not answered any of my questions by the way. <br /><br />Regards.irodov707https://www.blogger.com/profile/02720139530778436308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442555339667770589.post-55088668160149140892011-10-07T09:59:46.683+05:302011-10-07T09:59:46.683+05:30@irodov707
What makes you think people who believe...@irodov707<br />What makes you think people who believe in God don't have a reasoning mind?<br />Maybe they have reasoned that there is something which is beyond reason and cant be quantified or qualified.<br />It doesn't matter who propounded the theory, I am entitled to my opinion.<br />Have you read all Vedic/Upanishads wisdom and understood it before questioning my qualification?<br />Do you just quote what your books tell you or try to form your own opinions.<br />Irrespective of your beliefs please don't be dogmatic and arrogant about it.Even Einstein is close getting proved wrong by the recent CERN experiment.mosurhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442555339667770589.post-63241311479371691282011-10-06T01:21:18.014+05:302011-10-06T01:21:18.014+05:30Science is for the reasoning mind. Those who have ...Science is for the reasoning mind. Those who have already landed into a frame of mind without reasoning themselves into it can almost never be reasoned out of it. Agreed it is a theory. But 'Lame' theory? Seriously? Do you know anything at all about evolutionary psychology? Do you know that some of the ideas contained in that article were first propounded by noted evolutionary biologists including Sir Richard Dawkins? May I know how you qualify to call their theory lame?irodov707https://www.blogger.com/profile/02720139530778436308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442555339667770589.post-35075968614824824832011-10-04T22:59:39.003+05:302011-10-04T22:59:39.003+05:30@Arun
Read both links.Sorry to say I was expectin...@Arun<br /> Read both links.Sorry to say I was expecting some profundity but a very lame theory calling the older generation deluded.<br />To believe in Science one does not need to forfeit faith.And I dont think there are any atheists in this world, even self-belief is a faith on unknown. You may not call it God.<br />If we are such a random occurrence then what makes one believe the "I" is in your control.<br />And I am sure that you will reach a point in life where you will understand faith and appreciate it.mosurhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442555339667770589.post-72110404447332201042011-10-03T01:07:52.406+05:302011-10-03T01:07:52.406+05:30"I wonder sometimes as to why doesn't the..."I wonder sometimes as to why doesn't the God show himself to people in other countries." This is a false premise. The reasoning that followed, to try and 'understand' this premise is therefore false too.<br /><br />"Such a God is Shuddha Sattva and the one who transcends to the level of Shuddha Sattva 'sees' Him." Do you know the meaning of any of these words or are you one of those people who parrot things from books and post their views on blogs? Do you have any thoughts of your own?irodov707https://www.blogger.com/profile/02720139530778436308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442555339667770589.post-79827334975949644212011-09-30T19:20:48.324+05:302011-09-30T19:20:48.324+05:30//I wonder sometimes as to why doesnt the God show...//I wonder sometimes as to why doesnt the God show himself to people in other countries.//<br /><br />It is because they do not know nor think of "God" - the All pervading Brahman, the knowledge of which is available only in India (Vedics/ Hindus). Such a God is Shuddha Sattva and the one who transcends to the level of Shuddha Sattva 'sees' Him. How to reach the level of Shuddha Sattva is also available to those connected to India or Hindu Thought. That is the reason.Jayasree Saranathan https://www.blogger.com/profile/01048252011566427834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442555339667770589.post-67969496243355554492011-09-30T19:04:38.451+05:302011-09-30T19:04:38.451+05:30Ma'am,
Godmen in our country claim to have s...Ma'am,<br /> Godmen in our country claim to have seen god. They are also treated as no less than god by people who worship them or follow them. Hindus especially are desperate to visit such godmen who can alleviate their miseries in life. Fortunately, our country has many gods in human personification.<br /><br />“whomever He chooses, by him alone He is reached.<br />To him this Self reveals his own form” (Munda III-2-3)<br /> Does this apply here too? I wonder sometimes as to why doesnt the God show himself to people in other countries.<br /><br />When God can show himself to Ustad Bismillah Khan, i donot think it is related to IQ or meditation or samadhi or religion. It is just His wishAishunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442555339667770589.post-6904469494265846852011-02-13T11:42:26.166+05:302011-02-13T11:42:26.166+05:30I wish the following be made required reading at c...I wish the following be made required reading at college:<br /><br />http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/200803/why-do-we-believe-in-god-i<br /><br />http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/200803/why-do-we-believe-in-god-ii<br /><br />I'm a theoretical physicist. I don't know about the high-IQ part. Never took part in a degrading IQ test. But yes, I can tell you this much. About eleven months back, I woke up from what Richard Dawkins terms 'God Delusion'. I use his words to put things in context. I have no connection with him or his ideas, as I haven't seen his book in any manner, nor do I intend to. I consider myself intelligent enough of forming and reforming my own opinions. And yes, there is no going back on this one, since the awakening is for real. The mind has been unrestrained and free, since then. Never before did I feel this sense of elation. Physics problems I have dealt with were easier than this one. Probably why it took me 26 long years to crack this one. May you crack it yourself some day. All the best!<br /><br />Regards,<br />Me.Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08859827467160825264noreply@blogger.com