tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442555339667770589.post2383962632910286546..comments2024-03-18T22:56:06.696+05:30Comments on Jayasree Saranathan: Rama’s Coronation – was it a failure of astrology?Jayasree Saranathan http://www.blogger.com/profile/01048252011566427834noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442555339667770589.post-19317233736145558692019-08-19T23:13:40.947+05:302019-08-19T23:13:40.947+05:30Dear Sunil ji,
On Saturn's position in Rama&...Dear Sunil ji, <br /><br />On Saturn's position in Rama's horoscope: It was in uccha and retrogression. Traditionally Rama-jataka is kept in the pooja and worshiped. That Jataka has Saturn in this position. In traditional learning of astrology, the first lesson on signs, bhavas, planets and their behaviour is taught by using Rama Jataka only. I learnt my early lessons like that from my grand father. I was taught that the 7th lord in retrogression in exaltation in the 4th house caused untold sufferings to the spouse. <br /><br />On your 2nd mail:<br />1) Karma decides the events and as such one's prarabdha karma start getting manifest after the completion of 8 years. Until then the the karma of parents come into play. I am not aware of manifestation of star effects after 12 years. Anytime the planetary effects are based on star dispositors. <br />2)On the year confusions, I have already written in http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.com/2010/10/rama-lived-7000-years-ago.html <br /><br />Jayasree Saranathan https://www.blogger.com/profile/01048252011566427834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442555339667770589.post-71253446442632054802019-08-19T22:37:53.542+05:302019-08-19T22:37:53.542+05:30Dear Jayasreeji,
Astrologically I believe that af...Dear Jayasreeji,<br /><br />Astrologically I believe that after the first 12-year cycle of the Jupiter is over, the effect of the star-positions in the horoscope begin to take place. That could be the reason why king Dasharath had Lord Ram's marriage performed before he entered his 13th year.Dasharath also planned have Lord Rama's coronation before the adverse astral effect began. I read long back that mother Sita herself indicated that Lord Ram had to leave for forest when he was at the age of 13 years. Can you kindly check if this is astrologically compatible?<br />Regards,<br />SunilK BhattacharjyaSunil K. Bhattacharjyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14311674759297199401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442555339667770589.post-76056862813706172762019-08-16T21:31:39.641+05:302019-08-16T21:31:39.641+05:30Dear Jayasreeji,
In Lord Rama's horoscope the ...Dear Jayasreeji,<br />In Lord Rama's horoscope the grahas were svoccha (i.e., sva and uccha)and that means <br />at least one graha must have been in svasthana. I believe that the Shani Mahagraha was in the eighth house, the Kumbha rashi, which is also considered as the own house of Shani. It is because of this that king Janaka had chosen the appropriate nakshatra for the Marriage of Lord Rama and Mother Sita , but even that could not avert the separation of Lord Rama and Mother Sita. If Shani would have been tungi there would not have been any separation between them. Would you like to look at this?<br />Regards,<br />SunilK Bhattacharjya<br /><br /><br />Sunil K. Bhattacharjyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14311674759297199401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442555339667770589.post-54062142253606007142018-03-31T13:30:51.060+05:302018-03-31T13:30:51.060+05:30My 4-part articles on Yuga were posted recently. T...My 4-part articles on Yuga were posted recently. That would give a better picture of how to reconcile the mention of yugas in ancient texts. <br />https://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.in/2018/01/divya-and-dharma-two-sides-of-yuga.html<br />Jayasree Saranathan https://www.blogger.com/profile/01048252011566427834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442555339667770589.post-58424524956240126762009-07-23T12:38:54.299+05:302009-07-23T12:38:54.299+05:30The very word Yuga means twin. Remember the name Y...The very word Yuga means twin. Remember the name Yugma rasi for even rasis. Yugma is derived from Yuga which means two sided.<br /><br />Anything two sided is a yuga.<br />The day and night - Ahoratra is a yuga. <br /><br />The Ayanas constitute a yuga. <br /><br />The panchavarshathmaka yuga (5 years) make a yuga (2-1/2 years twice with an adhik masa)<br /><br />In this context, there is a padhathi "Ahoreva samvatsar" It means the first one I said - the day-night (Ahoratra) forming a yuga.<br /><br />Every day a person is born anew with the sunrise. Coming to live to see the next sunrise is like having finished one yuga and starting another yuga. That is the import. <br /><br />If we consider the most basic classification of Ahoreva samvatsar, each day is a samvatsar or a year. If we say that Rama lived for 11,000 years, according to this calculation, he had lived for 31 years!!<br /><br />Look at Rama's life. From Sita's version in Sundhara kanda we know that Rama went on Vanavas in his 25th year. 25+ 14= 39. He ascended the throne on his 39th year. If he is to have ruled for 11,000 years, then add 31 years to this. That means he ruled till his 70th year!<br />(Here again the year is not what we think as 365 days. The solar year has 360 days. The sun travels a degree a day and completes one round of the zodiac of 360 degrees in 360 days. You will find basics all these when you do Shad bala calculations of Sripathi padhathi.)<br /><br />This is how we have to interpret. <br /><br />While interpreting the past we have to bear in mind the age of earth and age of life for which we have surya siddhantha guidance. If we are to take the meaning as we know it on face value in our limited perception, then we will be in for wrong conclusions. Not only that, we will be also making this vast body of knowledge of Veadnta and vedanga put into ridicule. <br /><br />Hope this suffices for the present. i want to say much more. I started this blog only for sharing views like these. Hope God gives me time, health and mind to express more on this soon.Jayasree Saranathan https://www.blogger.com/profile/01048252011566427834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442555339667770589.post-58533033829270687022009-07-23T02:46:06.830+05:302009-07-23T02:46:06.830+05:30Hmm.. this may need more research.
Because if you...Hmm.. this may need more research.<br /><br />Because if you go through Srimad Bhagavatam there are numerous instances wherein it mentions that such and such a person did tapas for 10,000 years, 36,000 years etc. The authenticity of bhagavatam and the explanations written on it by great gurus like madhwacharya are beyond doubt. <br /><br />so you will have much more digging to do in your post :-)<br /><br />Another point, some researches have pointed out that the skymap mentioned in ramayan occurs 7000 years ago, that may be true.. but they also have to dig deeper :-)<br /><br />Ramayana occured not in this 28th yuga cycle, nor in 27th,26th or 25th, but in 24th yuga cycle. Its the enduring personality of Rama that makes him remembered even today. probably Valmiki Ramayana was composed in this yuga cycle<br /><br />I dont think its possible to use the astronomy softwares to go back to such deep past . so science has to come up with some other way to touch ramayana :-)Raghavendranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442555339667770589.post-7710367908598672122009-07-22T13:20:19.445+05:302009-07-22T13:20:19.445+05:30About longevity in 1000s of years. We know that it...About longevity in 1000s of years. We know that it is impossible for a human being to live in physical form for so much time. The rationale for such description of very long life will be written in the proposed post. It is too long to explain here. <br /><br />But I will pick out some info from my articles and give here. <br /><br />The strong indicators for believing that the life span in those days could not have been in thousands but within or around a hundred are as follows:<br /><br /> <br /># Brahma devan is said to live for 100 years in his time scale. Therefore 100 is the standard year duration for longevity. Since man is at a micro cosmic scale of the Cosmic god Brahma, and though man’s life is shaped by the influence of each of the nine planets which runs into a total period of 120 years, this span is roughly around 100 years only.<br /><br /> <br /># The blessings given by elders when one prostrates is of Vedic origin (of satya yuga). It is (“Shatamaanam bhavathi shataayu: purusha:…”) to invoke 100 years of life for the one so blessed. This blessing is repeated in several places in the Upanishads too.<br /><br /> <br /># When one performs the daily midday supplication (noon part of Sandhyavndana), the individual prays to the sun when he is in full bloom that he may be blessed to see him for a full life of nearly 100 years. (“PashyEma sharada: shatham… jIvEma sharada: shatham.. etc ) The prayer is for 100 years and this prayer also has its origin in Vedic yuga.<br /><br /> <br /># We can quote an example from Ramayana itself. In Sundhara khandam (sargam 34) On seeing that Raama dhoothan (Hanuman) has come to redeem her distress, Sita says, “ yethi jivantha aanandham naram varshashathadhabhi.” (If only a person were to live for a 100 years, he would sure have ‘aanandham’ sometime even after a 100 years.) Here ‘if only a person lives for a 100 years ‘ make it clear that the average life span of a person in Thretha yuga (Sita's times) had not been in 1000s of years- but only to a maximum of 100 years!<br /><br />In Ramayana, narada tells Valmilki<br />"raamo raajyam upaasitvaa " - Rama rajyam for 11,000 years. <br />What does this mean? <br /><br />“ dasha varSa sahasraaNi dasha varSa shataani ca |<br />raamo raajyam upaasitvaa brahma lokam prayaasyati || “ (1-1-97)<br /><br />97. dasha+varSa+sahasraaNi= ten, years, thousand; dasa+varsha+sataani+ca= ten, years, hundred, also; raamaH= Rama; raajyam+upaasitvaa= kingdom, on reverencing; brahma+ lokam+gamishhyati= Brahma's abode, voyages.<br /><br />"On reverencing the kingdom for ten thousand years plus another one thousand years, [i.e. for a total of eleven thousand years,] Rama voyages to the abode of Brahma... [1-1-97]<br /><br />Comment: In rama raajyam upaasitvaa... the word used is upaasana is not ruling by sceptre but 'reverentially idolised the kingdom...' as one would regard or treat his personal god with reverence. Rama thus reverenced his kingdom as a devotee of his subjects and this is the concept of raama raajya.<br /><br /><br />The commentary above puts the entire issue in a different perspective!!<br /><br />Raama established Raama rajyam for 10,000 + 1000 years after which He left for His Abode. Raama rajyam stands for Raama’s ideals in different spheres of life and governance. Even at the time of Vali vadam it is said that since the entire earth was under Ikshvahu hold, Raama was bound to establish its dharma by slaying Vaali. It is well known that the entire land mass was not under Ikshvahu dynasty. The implication was that the dharma, the ideals and values systems which the dynasty stood for , was followed throughout the land mass. That Rama rajya dharma will live for 11,000 years is the import.<br /><br /><br />It is said at many places in the texts that Raama’s story will live as long as Himalayas and the Ganga live. Rama rajyam or Rama's memory will be there till Ganga flows. Perhaps Ganga will flow for 11,000 years after Rama's birth!!Jayasree Saranathan https://www.blogger.com/profile/01048252011566427834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442555339667770589.post-75846600119207116902009-07-21T20:54:37.666+05:302009-07-21T20:54:37.666+05:30One more thing mrs jayasree. In the post you have ...One more thing mrs jayasree. In the post you have used dasa-antardasa of various planets for explaining the points.<br /><br />I'm not sure that this is accurate, for the below reasons.<br /><br />1. The current rules of astrology that we use was finalized by parashara at the end of dwapara yuga for the people of kali yuga. So i'm of the opinion that these rules may not have held good back in tretha yuga.<br /><br />2. The main reason for my above point is that Rama ruled the earth for around 11,000 years, so if his life span was 11,000 odd years, they we cannot apply the current dasha system as according to that the poorna aayu of a person in kali yuga is 120 years.Raghavendranoreply@blogger.com