tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442555339667770589.post6353071975422909258..comments2024-03-18T22:56:06.696+05:30Comments on Jayasree Saranathan: Origin of Sri vaishnavismJayasree Saranathan http://www.blogger.com/profile/01048252011566427834noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442555339667770589.post-50702629010705495782014-12-02T10:49:07.523+05:302014-12-02T10:49:07.523+05:30How do you prove that krishna is paripurna in vish...How do you prove that krishna is paripurna in vishistaadvaita?.....<br />because krishna only said that he is paripurna in bhagavath geetha...<br /><br />but ,according to vishistaadvaita...we are brahman,at the same time ,we are not paripurna...similar case applies to krishna...so,how is krishna paripurna in vishistaadvaita? Srivathsahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03615592458828309283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442555339667770589.post-24365884562458189422008-05-08T14:49:00.000+05:302008-05-08T14:49:00.000+05:30Smt Jayasree,I dont understand how you got me wron...Smt Jayasree,<BR/><BR/>I dont understand how you got me wrong here when you ask <BR/><BR/>//Can we say that they do not accept the concept of Sri in Lord and therefore not Srivaishnavites? <BR/>Since they are also Vishnu- devotees, is a srivaishnava justified in not prostrating before them? <BR/>Is it not a foremost lakshana of a srivaishnavite to pay respect to the fellow devotee of Vishnu?<BR/>//<BR/><BR/>I never said this. What I said was, you had coined the term Sri for respect, while what the traditional account says is, because of the direct involvement of Sri, they are called Srivaishnavas. <BR/><BR/>I have no second opinion in that everyone who has Vishnu sambandham (I would go even more from here to say "everyone" who is moral and virtuous, without the qualifications like Vishnu sambandham etc)has to be paid obeisance and due respect. So naturally Siva or Brahma or any human being, irrespective of the race, caste, creed would have to be respected, considering ourselves as "neechas" compared to them.<BR/><BR/>So please rest assured, that I was not contesting you. Rather, since you did not touch on the popular connotion for Sri, I mentioned about it.<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/>VenkateshVenkateshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08773913503307995480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442555339667770589.post-59297887036515335312008-05-08T12:27:00.000+05:302008-05-08T12:27:00.000+05:30Dear Venkatesh,Any follower of Vishnu is a vaishna...Dear Venkatesh,<BR/><BR/>Any follower of Vishnu is a vaishnavite. In that sense, Shiva who has given Manthra Raja padam and extolled the greatness of Rama manthram is a vishnavite. Brahma who was the first one to have been given jata karma and nama karma and pancha samskaras is a Vaishnvite. We have puranic / smruthi pramana for these.<BR/><BR/>Can we say that they do not accept the concept of Sri in Lord and therefore not Srivaishnavites? <BR/>Since they are also Vishnu- devotees, is a srivaishnava justified in not prostrating before them? <BR/>Is it not a foremost lakshana of a srivaishnavite to pay respect to the fellow devotee of Vishnu?<BR/><BR/>These questions also will arise and the answers given for these do not fall in conformity with sruti texts. The reasons lie elsewhere and not in what is being told to srivaishnavites.<BR/><BR/><BR/>My handling of all issues on Vaideeha matam is to put them in philosophical and metaphorical perspective in such a way, that there is adherence to sruti and smruthi texts.<BR/><BR/><BR/>The explanation that you have given which is also the popular explanation with srivaishnavites is thus fraught with in- comprehensiveness that can only lead to divisions and confusions.<BR/><BR/>Even Ramanuja did not coin the term Srivaishnavism. It was Ramanuja Darshanam - an insight or outlook of Ramanuja. It was Vaideeha matam until then.<BR/><BR/>The concept of Sri develops in the created world. I have already written on this concept in yahoo groups and will write again in this blog.Jayasree Saranathan https://www.blogger.com/profile/01048252011566427834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3442555339667770589.post-54593964568604171732008-05-08T10:50:00.000+05:302008-05-08T10:50:00.000+05:30Smt Jayasree,From whatever little that I know, the...Smt Jayasree,<BR/><BR/>From whatever little that I know, the reason, it is called Srivaishnavism is because of the importance to Lakshmi in this SampradhAyam. In fact if one takes the Acharya Paramparai of the Srivaishnavites, it starts with Sriman Narayanan giving upadEsam to His consort 'Sri', who inturn gives the upadesam to Sri Vishwaksenar and the chain continues. Leaving Sriman Narayanan behind, the Sampradhayam is considered to have been started by "Sri" and hence Srivaishnavism. <BR/><BR/>As the Vaishnavites of North India do not consider this aspect of "Sri" they are just called Vaishnavites for whom, the sampradhayam originated from Brahmachari Narayanan.<BR/><BR/>Please correct me if I am wrong here.Venkateshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08773913503307995480noreply@blogger.com