Friday, October 18, 2013

Is Vedic astrology derived from Greek astrology? (Part 19) Tamil sources (Vaastu)

 

In the course of explaining the verses on Mesha / goat / aadu from the Sangam texts in my last article , I wrote that I will bring out the verses on Vastu sastra from Tamil texts that would further strengthen our arguments for the antiquity of Vedic astrology.

 

An important source for this is Silappadhikaram of the 1st century CE. The context was the dance programme of Madhavi on the occasion of Indra Festival in Pumpukaar. The poet describes how the stage was made. His description shows that the stage was not constructed by imagination. He uses the terminology of Vaastu sastra  such as angulas (viral) and hasthas (kOl) in deciding the length, breadth and height of the stage. He says that the people trained in texts, chose a place that was free of defects and measured it. With the long bamboo sticks they procured from the Podhigai hills, they made measurement as per traditional texts. They cut the bamboo into a hastha of 24 angula of utthama pramana, Ceiling planks measured as 8 x 7x 1 hastha each were raised on 4 pillars. The stage made in this way had 2 entrances where the ceiling plank was 4 hasthas high from the floor. The 4 directional deities were consecrated in that stage with lamps fixed on the pillars. (1) The poet does not forget to mention that the builders of the stage did all these as per the olden texts. Though there is no explicit mention of a chosen time (muhurtha) for erecting this stage, the reference to traditional texts and the consecration of deities, make it known that they had followed Vastu rules of muhurtha.

 


Earlier in describing the married life of Kannagi and Kovalan, he makes a mention of the cot used by them. There he specifically mentions that it was a 'cot having the legs made as per the rules of Mayan!' (2)

 


Cot or any furniture had a stamp of Mayan in those times of Silappdhikaram and before. Mayamatham describes 4 types of Vastu as "Bhumi PrAsAda yAnAni shayanan cha chathurvidham" (Mayamatham, Chapter 2 - verse 2). Bhumi and PrAsAda come under the category of building architecture. The last two namely yAna and shayana come under separate category for which Mayan was very famous. The same chapter of Mayamatham goes on to say that YAna includes conveyances and Sayana includes furniture of sorts. Mayan was known for making them and Mayasabha was the hallmark of his expertise in this field.

 


Skeptics and opponents would pooh-pooh the historicity of Mayan and Mayasabha and would put the date of Mayamatham to some century of the Common Era. But the Tamil literary sources authenticate the presence of Maya in Mahabharata times and his influence in Shayana Vaastu throughout India even before the start of the Common Era.

 


The cot mentioned above was made as per the specification of Maya Vaastu. This knowledge was available as early as the 1st century CE which was the time Silappadhikaram was composed.  

 


The cot used by the Queen of the Pandyan King Nedum Cheziyan whom I wrote about in the last article  (3rd century BC) is also described in detail in the Sangam text of Nedunal vaadai. The description of this cot is a stunning revelation of craftsmanship which is not to be found in the present times. It was a circular cot made of ivory. The specifications are such that the ivory for the cot was procured from an elephant which was more than 40 years of age and was having feet that resembled an inverted drum (a musical instrument). Such an elephant must have taken part in many battles and must be retired from war service at the time of procuring the ivory. Such an elephant must have lines on the forehead. The tusk of such an elephant must have fallen off (and not broken off) while the elephant was alive. Such a tusk was chiseled to make the cot. (3) As usual the poet says that experts were engaged in making the cot. Though the dimensions are not given, the specifications make it known that a well developed system of shayana Vaastu was in place at that time.

 


For every kind of art there were specifications and methods of doing. Such an advanced artistic knowledge was there in Sangam age. The above mentioned Sangam poem continues to describe how the bed was made and how the paintings on the bed-spread were made! Coming to Mayan, artifacts made as per Maya Vaastu were displayed in Pumpukaar at the time of Indra Festival. These artifacts were procured from Arya vartha by the Cholan King Karikaala when he made an expedition to the Himalayas.

 


When Karikal Cholan went on his expedition to the Himalayas (before the Common Era), he passed through many kingdoms in North India. On his journey, he was gifted with a Royal Canopy by the king of "Vajra desa" which was surrounded by water. The King of Magadha who was skilled in sword fighting, gifted him with a Vidya Mantap where experts used to congregate for debates. The king of Avanthi gifted him with a decorated entrance. All these were made with gold and precious gems. There were other decorated artifacts gifted to Karikal Cholan. All these were created as per the rules laid down by Maya who taught these rules to the ancestors of the makers of these things, in return for the help they once did to him (Maya). (4)

 


This is a crucial information because this tells that the ancestors of the craftsmen had rendered some help to Maya. This information found in Silappadhikaram is not a myth as the same information on these three artifacts gifted by the kings of the three countries of Aryavartha is repeated in chapter 28 in the context of describing the Cholan court –a  chitra sabha – decorated with these three.  (5)

 


What kind of help, the ancestors (thollOr = olden people) of the craftsmen of Vajra desa, Magadha and Avanthi (all of Aryavartha) could have done to Mayan in the past? The only connection to Maya comes in Mahabharata period when he was rescued from the fire in the Khandava vana by Arjuna and was asked by Krishna to build a palace for the Pandavas. (6) Maya brought the precious gems and other items he had collected in the past and started building the palace and finished it in 14 months. There is no mention of his team of men to assist him in the work. As a single person, he could not have built the entire palace. The local builders must have been pressed into service to help him. Silappadhikaram verse shows that these persons who had helped him in building that palace were taught the tricks and methods of his trade in return for the help they had rendered. They retained that knowledge and transferred it down the generations. The gifts that Karikalan received were made by those persons coming in their families who employed the rules of Maya that their ancestors had learned from him. By 2000 years BP, the Maya Vaastu on shayana had become wide spread throughout India, as is made known from the cot of Kovalan and Kannagi, made with Maya Vaastu.



 

By this information, the fact about Maya having built the Maya sabha for the Pandavas is cross checked (from Silappadhikaram). The date of Mahabharata was already established in Part 17 – and the inferences on planetary positions detailed in that article had not yet been disputed so far by anyone. (I sent that article to nearly a dozen scholars around the world who are not in the list). Maya Sabha was built before the Mahabharata war, that is, 5000 years ago. Maya did not start the work all in a sudden. He did the initial Graharambha puja at an auspicious time. In other words, Muhurtha astrology was in existence then.

 


Writing on this, Mahabharata says,  "Agreeing to the wishes of both Krishna and the sons of Pritha, the illustrious Danava (Maya)  of great prowess, having performed on an auspicious day the initial propitiatory rites of foundation and having also gratified thousands of well-versed Brahmanas  with sweetened milk and rice and with rich presents of various kinds, measured out a plot of land five thousand cubits square, which was delightful and exceedingly handsome to behold and which was favourable for construction of a building well-suited to the exigencies of every season" (7)

 


Whatever Vaastu principle that is found mentioned in later day texts was already is existence as early as Mahabharata times. For example before Mayan started the work on Maya Sabha, Krishna told him to combine Godly, Asuric and Human designs in the building (8). This is a Vastu principle mentioned in Vastu Vidya. According to this, any site has Daiva, Asura and Manushya features and it is desirable to determine them and then construct the dwelling areas in Daiva and Manusha parts (9).

 


From the instruction of Krishna on Daiva – asura – mansuhya features of the land, it comes to be known that Vaastu knowledge was in existence before Maya was given the task of making Maya sabha. We find a reference to Vaastu and Graharambha puja earlier in the Epic. When Pandavas received  Khandavaprastha as a share in the kingdom from Dhritharashtra, it was not a habitable region.  Krishna Dwaipayana (Ved Vyasa) assisted them in selecting a site in that region for building a city. Mahabharata mentions that they performed certain propitiatory ceremonies and measured out a certain piece of land for their city (10). This goes to show that Vaastu puja was done after Bhu shodhana and after determining the Bhu lakshana.

 


This also shows that Vaastu vidya existed in our country before Maya was assigned the task of constructing the palace for the Pandavas. Maya himself reflected on Viswakarma before deciding on how to construct the Sabha. (11) Viswakarma Prakashika gives details of how to fix an auspicious Muhurtha for graharambha. Our opponents fond of dating this text would ascribe a later century of the 1st millennium CE. But like Mayamatham, Viswakarma Prakashika too was written by the followers of Viswakarma whose origins go to undated past. The graharambha muhurtha rules of Viswakarma Prakashika stresses on Chandra balam for the Yajaman, graharambha lagna and planetary yogas which pre-require knowledge of rashis. The Solar transit in different rashis is also a matter to be looked at when construction is started.

 


In this context let me answer a query from one of the members of this list who sent a mail after reading Part no 10 of my series of articles where I wrote



//One of the main clauses for fixing the time of the consecration of a temple is that Venus and Jupiter must not be combust at that time. From where they got the idea of these planets to fix the time of consecration of these temples at Irunthaiyur and Srirangam  at 2000 + years ago? From Greece? Nothing can be more laughable than this. //

 


The sender wrote that this argument is too weak and asked,


//One of the main clauses// Who made those clauses? where is the evidence that those temples where originally consecrated by following the Muhurtha rules? Is there any recorded evidence to that effect? 

 

(end quote)


 

The recorded evidences are the graharambha pujas for setting up Khandavaprastha and Maya Sabha. Jupiter and Venus must not be combust at that time. The malefic Saturn and Mars related yogas must have been checked or else the building would be destroyed by fire or leave one's hands. Wax palace in which the Pandavas were housed was a case in point.

 


For the doubting Thomases on knowledge of planets in Vedic society, let me say this. None of the Vedic yajnas can be done by one who is not a dwija born. In other words, without undergoing the upanayana ceremony, a person could not have done the yajnas nor learnt the Vedas or Vedangas. That means, Upanayana had come into existence before the period of Vedanga Jyothisha.

 


Upanayana cannot be done on some date. Astrologers know very well that getting a good Upanayana muhurtha is the toughest compared to all the other ceremonies including marriage ceremony. The age of the boy matters and the more importantly Guru- Shukra maudhyam must not be there at the time of upanayana. Fourth house must be free of afflictions and there are malefic yogas with reference to 4th house that must be avoided. Without knowledge of planets and houses, upanayana date cannot be fixed.  This is the implicit proof for knowledge of planets and rashis in the Vedic society several centuries before Alexander's invasion. I would even say this pre-dates the pre-Hellenistic period.

 


To prove this last line, let me come back to Maya sabha built by Mayan. He built an indoor water tank which looked deceptive as there was no visible sign of water inflow or outflow structures in that tank. The surface of water was very much like a floor – something made possible by the fine bottom structure that was seen through the water. Similar structure is seen in the Great Bath of Mohenjadaro. It has all the features of a tank within an enclosed structure and this could have been the work of the masons who learnt the art of making interior tanks from Maya.

 


The Great Bath as it looks now:

 

The Great Bath originally looked like something as shown below. This is made out from the surrounding features excavated.

{The above is the re-designed structure of the Great Bath of Mohenjo-Daro. This structure is actually aVaapi or a step-well}

 

This is how an indoor Vaapi looks like.

 

The interesting feature of the Great Bath is the outlet which was quite huge that even an elephant can walk past it. The picture below shows the structure of the outlet of the Great Bath.





The date of this structure is roughly 5000 years BP. Similar looking passages in the walls, called as Masonry tunnels are found in ancient Greece in the Mycenaean site of Tiryns  The date of the civilization that made this somewhere between 1400 to 1200 BC. Look at the shape of the masonry tunnel and the arrangement of stones of the wall of the tunnel.


 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tiryns,_a_passageway.jpg



Compare this structure with the previous picture. The similarity is striking.



How did this similarity come into place? Which of these two structures came first, the Tiryn (Greek) tunnel or Mohenjo-Daro tunnel? From where and from whom this knowledge of building tunnel was got or transferred to Greece?

 



Already there exists ample evidence for the shift of Vaastu knowledge from India to Europe in the form of "cornerstone"  in the name of sacred architecture. The laying of cornerstone of the European Churches has all the trappings of foundation laying ceremony of Vaastu in a corner.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornerstone#History

 

But the Tiryns structures and Tiryns culture from which the Greeks derived their culture had more similarity with –of all the people in the world– Tamils of the Sangam period.  Even the Masonry tunnel which was called as Cyclopean Tunnel existed in Madurai at the time of Silappadhikaram. The Cyclopean tunnels were made in the walls through which people can pass through. In Mohenjo-Daro, such a tunnel was used to flush out water in a huge gush. Similar structure was there in the moat around the city of Madurai, through which the elephants moved in and out.



"இளை சூழ்மிளையொடு வளைவுடன் கிடந்த

இலங்கு நீர்ப் பரப்பின்  வலம்புணரகழியில்

பெருங்கை யானை இன நிரை பெயரும்

சுருங்கை வீதி…"


{Silappadhikaram chapter 14 – lines 62 to 65)


 

Meaning: Surrounded by security guards, the winding moat had underground (under water) streets that were huge enough for groups of elephants to cross over (to the city and / or outside).



They were passages inside the moat connecting the two boundary walls of the moat.  Such formations were common in olden Tamil lands which are known from the concept called "KaranthuRai" (கரந்துறை) or "Karanthup padai" (கரந்துப் படை). It means secret passages made of stone or passages through which water is flushed. 


 

Similar formation for the similar purpose is found in Tiryns! The date of the culture of the people who erected them (Mycenaean) is stated to be 1600 BC to 1100 BC – the beginning date coinciding with the 3rd and the last deluge in the Indian Ocean. It was the time the Pandyans – popularly known for seafaring settled inland of South Tamil nadu in Madurai. Around the same time Byt Dwaraka was submerged. Around the same time Tiryns came to be occupied by a people who came from the seas!

 


Dr Subhash Kak wonders whether the Tiryns were the Tirayans of Tamil society. (Indic language families and Indo-European.). The early Pandyans living in 49 scattered lands in the Indian Ocean were known as Tirayans, meaning, sea-farers. Did a group of them shift to Greece through the Mediterranean seas when their habitat in the Indian ocean was lost. This loss happened around 1500 BC in the section of the western Indian Ocean when the extended hills of the Western Ghats sank in the Indian Ocean.


 

There is evidence to support the theory that Tirayans went on to settle down in Tiryns, which will be dealt with in the next article. But the inference is that whatever our opponents are claiming on Greeks being the fore-runners of concepts that were originally Vedic get demolished when we show that Tirayan Tamils had taken these ideas to Greece much before Greek Thought took shape! 


 

(to be continued)

 

 

Notes:

(1) எண்ணிய நூலோர் இயல்பினின் வழாஅது

மண்ணகம் ஒரு வழி வகுத்தனர் கொண்டு

புண்ணிய நெடுவரைப் போகிய நெடுங்கழைக்

கண்ணிடை ஒரு சாண் வளர்ந்தது கொண்டு

நூனெறி மரபின் அரங்கம் அளக்கும்

கோலளவு இருபத்து நால் விரலாக

எழு கோல் அகலத்து எண் கோல் நீளத்து

ஒரு கோல் உயரத்து உறுப்பினதாகி

உத்தரப்பலகையோடு அரங்கின் பலகை

வைத்த இடைநிலம் நாற்கோலாக

ஏற்ற வாயில் இரண்டுடன் பொலியத்

தோற்றிய அரங்கில் தொழுதனரேத்தப்

பூதரை எழுதி மேனிலை வைத்துத்

தூண்நிழல் புறப்பட மாண் விளக்கு எடுத்து….

{Silappadhikaram, Chapter 3- lines 95 to 108}

 

(2) "மயன் விதித்தன்ன மணிக்கால் அமளி" (Silappadhikaram, Chapter 2 – line 12)

(3) "தச நான்கு எய்திய பணை மருள் நோன் தாள்,

இகல் மீக்கூறும் ஏந்து எழில் வரி நுதல்,

பொருது ஒழி, நாகம்,ஒழி எயிறு அருகு எறிந்து,

சீரும் செம்மையும் ஒப்ப, வல்லோன்

கீர் உளிக் குயின்ற, ஈர் இலை இடை இடுபு,

தூங்கு இயல் மகளிர் வீங்கு முலை கடுப்பப்

புடை திரண்டிருந்த குடத்த இடை திரண்டு,

உள்ளி நோன் முதல் பொருத்தி அடி அமைத்து,

பேர் அளவு எய்திய பெரும் பெயர்ப் பாண்டில்"

 

(Nedunal vaadai lines 115 to 123)

 

 

 



(4) "மாநீர் வேலி வஜ்ஜிர நன்னாட்டுக்

கோன் இறை கொடுத்த கொற்றப் பந்தரும்,

மகத நன்னாட்டு வாள்வாய் வேந்தன்

பகைபுறத்துக் கொடுத்த பட்டி மண்டபமும்,

அவந்தி வேந்தன் உவந்தனன் கொடுத்த

நிவந்தோங்கு மரபில் தோரண வாயிலும்

பொன்னினும், மணியினும் புனைந்தன வாயிலும்

நிண்வினைக் கம்மியர் காணா மரபின

துயர் நீங்கு சிறப்பினவர் தொல்லோர் உதவிக்கு

மயன் விதித்துக் கொடுத்த மரபின இவைதாம்.."

 

(Silappadhikaram, Chapter 5 – lines 99 to 108)

 

(5) "வஜ்ஜிரம் அவந்தி மகதமொடு குழீஇய

சித்திர மண்டபத்திருக்க வேந்தன்"

(Silappadhikaram, Chapter 28, lines 66 & 67)

 

(6) Mahabharata – Sabha Parva – chapter 1.

(7) Mahabharata – Sabha Parva – Chapter 1.

(8) Mahabharata – Sabha Parva – Caapter 1 – verse 11.

(9) "Manushya madhayamyancha daiva maasura mevacha

Aishanyadhi padaanyancha naamanyevam virudbhudaha" (Vastu Vidya)

 

(10)                    Mahabharata - Adhi parva – chapter 208

(11)                    Mahabharata – Sabha Parva – Chapter 1 -16

 

 

4 comments:

Jayasree Saranathan said...

Dr Arun Upadhyay wrote:-

Vajra-nagara is also mentioned in Harivamsha purana as a place in west Asia. It can be Basra port of Iraq. Royal canopy can be kanchana-sravi-chhatra of Varuna (छत्रं च वारुणं गेहे काञ्चनस्रावि तिष्ठति-दुर्गा-सप्तशती ५/९७). Silappadhikaram could be an older work-it appears to be about 100-200 years after Siddhartha Buddha (1887-1807 BC).

-Arun

Jayasree Saranathan said...

Thanks for the information Arunji.

Karikal Cholan's Himalayan expedition was to chisel out his emblem on the Himalayas. The kings of all the three Tamil dynasties had gone to the Himalayas to chisel out their respective emblems as a show of supremacy.

The earliest to do that was the first Pandyan king who took up the reigns after the 3rd deluge and after settling down in South India.The place of the Himalayas is mentioned as "Paru-p-padam" (Barbara desa? or any equivalent?). This information has been immortalised in Divya Prabhanda verses by Periyaazwar. Only two places, Paru-p-padam and Kuyilaaluvam (Kailash) are repeated as sacred Shiva shrines in Himalayas. So I infer Paru-p-padam to be Amarnath.


From the Cheran expedition that I explained earlier in the series, it is known with certainty that Paru-padam was in North - North west of the Himalayas because the Cheran King joined Satakarnis and defeated the Yavanas who were located in that region.


Karikal Cholan comes in the period before this Cheran King. There is even a record that he married a princess of the Ganges region. This princess took to asceticism after Karikalan died, There is some news on the discovery of an inscription saying this. So Karikalan's expedition to the North is very much true. But there is no information on the exact location where he chiseled his emblem. I presume it to be in Amarnath that has a symbolism of failed copulation between Shiva and Uma pointing out to the failed formation of a mighty river from a Himalayan glacier. This refers to the period of beginning of the end of the Ice Age. The heat (agni) shifted to Gangothri and Ganges was born later.


So during the early Sangam period, (about 10,000 years ago) Amarnath must have captured the awe and devotion of the people and not Kailash. The early Pandyan had paid his obeisances to Amarnath lord and staked his claim to supremacy by reaching over there. It is reasonable to assume that Karikal Cholan also felt it necessary to go to that part of the Himalayas where his rival Pandyan had already set his foot. This was repeated by the Cheran king during the Silappadhikaram period.


From there (Amarnath / North- north west Himalayas) reaching Vajra Desa (Basra) is an easy task I believe. However the 9th century commentator on Silappadhikaram had written that this Vajra desa surrounded by water could have been situated on Sone river, a tributary of the Ganges. Sone or Sonai river is mentioned often in sangam texts. Gold was said to be available in and around that region. I request you and others to look at this probability (river Sone) and shed more light. The reference to water seems to indicate sea water as the word was "Maaneer" huge waters. If it is a river, the river must have been vast in its length and breadth.

(cont'd)

Jayasree Saranathan said...

On the date of Silappadhikaram, there is ample proof that it is post sangam period. It was a contemporary work. Karikal Cholan belonged to the period before Silappadhikaram as there is reference to him and his Himalayan expedition in Silappadhikaram. Karikalan's time can be checked from the genealogy of Cholans given in Thiruvalangadu copper plates. Based on that only, I deduced the period of last sangam assembly to be around or just before Common Era.

The king of Malwa also is mentioned as a contemporary of the Cheran king of Silappadhikaram times. He was present in the consecration of Kannagi temple. He was in all probability Salivahana. Further cross checking can be done from other accounts that existed and were remembered till the British came to India. From Thurston's account on the castes of South India, it is known that Salivahana's influence was there upto Kancheepuram and the early migrants from Indus (1500 BC) who took a severe beating from Karikal cholan found a new lease of life after Salivahana's control over these parts of Tamilnadu. A caste known as Palli (dalits) were actually migrants from Dwaraka who eventually established their supremacy in many walks of life after this Cheran king and Salivahana wielded control in Tamil lands. Most caste conflicts between dalits and so-called caste Hindus in Tamil lands can be traced to the historical struggle between locals and migrants.

regards,

jayasree

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