Monday, June 9, 2008

The Karmic difference between Kamal Hassan and Srinivasan Iyengar!




The following links from Dr Bruno discuss the question of genetics

in transferring certain disabilities

and also whether caste and up bringing have any role to play in this.

There is also a talk on whether these are indicated in horoscope.



http://payanangal.blogspot.com/2008/06/blog-post_05.html

http://payanangal.blogspot.com/2008/05/blog-spot_7964.html


Dis-abilities are not passed on to everyone of the lineage.

Whether one inherits a particular disability or not

is decided by the karmic experience

that one has to undergo in a particular birth.


But the disability may be passed on to subsequent generations

so that at some time in future,

some future off-spring who is destined to undergo the effects of such a disability

inherits it.




According to sanathana dharma, such pass-on-s happen

to 14 generations before and 14 generations after.

Some defect that was there in the 14th generation before

may get manifest in one, if one is destined to suffer that.

The genetic pool offers a wide source and

the passing-on-s of some defects indicate that

it may get ‘activated’ at a future date in a future off-spring.



In the immediate context 3 generations influence the off-springs.

My write-ups on pithru tarpaN will give information on

what the soul takes along with itself after death.

In consonance with what the soul has to experience in a subsequent birth,

it enters a yoni and draws the genes accordingly.

There is absolutely no random selection as far as the soul is concerned.



The soul’s faculty of knowledge and brain power

are all possessed by it already

which were acquired by it in the previous births.

Depending on the karma,

the soul works on it and may have it shielded in that birth.




The famous PuranaanUru song by KaNiyan Poonkundran

(yaadum voorE, yaavarum kELir) describes this beautifully.

One can not judge a person by what he is in this birth.

He may have been an enlightened one

but born dull due to his karma.

Once he wears off that karma,

his subsequent birth will see him

shine with his enlightenment.

From Brahma sutras we know that even if one has attained

The equanimity required for Release (moksha),

if he has some karma that has to be experienced,

such a person will be born again only to wear off that karma.

After that he will attain Moksha.




In this context, background and caste have a limited role to play.

There have been cases of “kundhu mani in kuppai-medu”

(prized gem in abandoned site)

or “vatthiyaar pillai makku”

( a dull son born to a great teacher).

All these are to ward off karma.

In warding off karma,

the karma of all those with whom one is associated

also is taken into account.




It is wonderful matrix of placing many people in a set-up

and the interactive karma and experiences

working with each-other so that

everyone will undergo their share of karma –

not a needle-tip more or less.




That is why we don’t always find ‘inherited’ horoscopes

or inherited palms (in palmistry)

However I have seen inherited ‘attitudes’ in horoscopes and palms

in some cases,

which are what the individual souls possessed

or are destined to possess by acquiring from genes and / or

molded by back-ground.




I have also seen RH negative running in families,

indicated by defective Mars and Rahu too.

The RH negative / some defect

not coming into a particular off-spring among other siblings

has also been indicated by a defect – getting a bhangam,

which means the trait is of course hidden in that particular person,

but may be activated in a future off-spring.

Also watch out eclipse births and

births at amavasya.




There are bound to be inherited diseases.

As far as child-birth problems are concerned,

the defect may run into generations but will not get manifest at every one.

If, on the other hand it gets manifested in generation after generation,

we attribute it to some ‘curse’ and

seek to remove it by pariharas and correctives.

If the curse ceases to haunt the family,

those born after the parihara was done,

will not exhibit that curse in the horoscope.





Basically it is all about the karma that one has to undergo.

A lawyer's son becoming a lawyer is an advantage used by the soul to fashion its birth.

But whether the soul earns Rs, 20,000 or Rs 2 lakh /pm

or just remains a lawyer on paper is due to its karma.

Up-bringing or caste or family has no role in this.

It has even been said Daivagyas ( astrology- rishis)

that what one is, will come out after 20 years of age,

though until then, the person is influenced by his parents and environment.

His real in-thing - good or bad or a mix-up

will manifest after 20 years -

irrespective of what his family back-ground or influence is like.





A Kamal hassan born to religious parents

rising in a profession not nurtured by such parents

is also a valid example of how karma alone decides.

It is "padhavi poorva puNyaanaam"

One's position / profession / money from such profession is due to poorva punyam.



Kamal's failure to grasp the core issue of Ramanuja's life

in announcing Thirumanthram to all irrespective of castes,

and use it in his film so that a crucial information can be taken to masses

at a crucial point of time in the history of India,

is also about the limits of his karmic duty

that he is otherwise expected to be born with,

as a son of a spiritual Srinivasan Iyengar.