Question – 116
Were all the proxy
features for identifying a cosmic impact mentioned in the Mahabharata?
Answer:
There are about 8
major proxy features for identifying a cosmic impact. Of them the three
must-be-present proxies are,
1. the loss of
iron oxide from the meteor (normally shrinks by 90%) and the rest only hits the
floor.
2. the loss of
titanium from the meteor. Both can be best identified in time series of peat
moss (because of exact dating of horizons with 14-C)
3. abundant
release of NO2 (nitrogen dioxide) in the atmosphere. The reddish-brown color of
this gas causes the water bodies and the rainwater to turn red. This is
recognized as ‘rain of blood’ or ‘rivers flowing with blood’ by the people.
All these are
detected in the data available for the impact of 3136 BCE. Any object entering
from space produces NOx. For example, a falling satellite back onto the earth
produces 7 tons of NOx. The Hastinapura event also produced NOx, expressed in
many ways as rain of blood, river of blood, vomit of blood, blood in the mouth,
in the body etc., explained as nimitta-s.
7 comments:
Hi Mrs. Saranathan,
I was trying to understand a few things. you claim 3101 BCE is the start date. Why not 3102 BCE?
I used 3102 BCE as reference from Surya Siddhantha. Since the year is an ordinal unit like day, I marked 3102 BCE as year 1. After all, even Hindu panchangam always refer to first day of the month as 1 Chaitra, not 0 Chaitra. Since there was no year 0, my formula went like this:
3102 BCE: Year 1
3002 BCE: Year 101
2 BCE: Year 3101
1 BCE: Year 3102
1 AD: Year 3103
2 AD: Year 3104
3 AD: Year 3105
4 AD: Year 3106
5 AD: Year 3107
6 AD: Year 3108
7 AD: Year 3109
8 AD: Year 3110
2008 AD: Year 5110
2018 AD: Year 5120
2023 AD: Year 5125
Please let me know if there is anything wrong with this as I am eager to learn.
@Aadikeshava Reddy,
How is the first year of Kali Yuga determined?
It started 3179 years before the beginning of Shalivahana Shaka in 78 CE.
By deducting 78 from 3179 we get 3101.
This gives the year 3101 BCE.
In this calculation the beginning of 78 is taken. So this gives only the completed years until then.
Kali Yuga began on Chitthirai (solar year of mesha) in 3101 BCE.
It is the 1st year.
On Chiththirai 3100 BCE - Kali 1 year over, and the 2nd year started running.
On Chitthirai 3099 BCE - Kali 2 years over, and the 3rd year started running.
In this way
on Chitthirai 3001 BCE - Kali 100 years over, and the 101st year started running.
On Chiththirai 2 BCE - Kali 3,099 years over, and the 3,100th year started running.
On Chitthirai 1 BCE - Kali 3,100 years over, and the 3,101st year started running.
On Chiththirai 0 year - Raudra year was running, 3101 Kali years were over and 3102nd year was running.
On Chiththirai 1 CE - kali 3102 years were over, and 3103rd year started running.
In this way,
on Chiththirai 2023 CE - Kali 5124 years were over, and 5125th year started running.
Panchangas show the running year.
This year will be over on Chiththirai 2024 only.
Why 3102 BCE is wrong?
Check Question No 22
https://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.com/2023/08/mahabharata-quiz-22.html
and Question no 23 on how Indologists made the mistake.
For further corroboration if you need, read my book 'Why killed Aditya Karikala?' The book is available on kindle. Several inscriptions were solved in that book. Their dates are based on 3101 BCE Kali beginning only.
I appreciate your work, but I am convinced you made an error on this. I looked at all of your questions 20-23, and I noticed that the astrology screenshot had -3101. This is equivalent to 3102 BCE, because this assumes year 0 as 1 BCE. Another thing, by subtracting 3179 years before 78 CE, you included year 0 when you were supposed to skip over it especially for both Julian and Gregorian calendars. Just my opinion on this.
Here is what I calculated in my Excel sheet:
AD 78 No. of years before 78
AD 77 1
AD 76 2
AD 75 3
AD 74 4
AD 73 5
AD 72 6
AD 71 7
AD 70 8
AD 69 9
AD 68 10
AD 67 11
AD 66 12
AD 65 13
AD 64 14
AD 63 15
AD 62 16
AD 61 17
AD 60 18
AD 59 19
AD 58 20
AD 57 21
AD 56 22
AD 55 23
AD 54 24
AD 53 25
AD 52 26
AD 51 27
AD 50 28
AD 49 29
AD 48 30
AD 47 31
AD 46 32
AD 45 33
AD 44 34
AD 43 35
AD 42 36
AD 41 37
AD 40 38
AD 39 39
AD 38 40
AD 37 41
AD 36 42
AD 35 43
AD 34 44
AD 33 45
AD 32 46
AD 31 47
AD 30 48
AD 29 49
AD 28 50
AD 27 51
AD 26 52
AD 25 53
AD 24 54
AD 23 55
AD 22 56
AD 21 57
AD 20 58
AD 19 59
AD 18 60
AD 17 61
AD 16 62
AD 15 63
AD 14 64
AD 13 65
AD 12 66
AD 11 67
AD 10 68
AD 9 69
AD 8 70
AD 7 71
AD 6 72
AD 5 73
AD 4 74
AD 3 75
AD 2 76
AD 1 77
BC 1 78
BC 2 79
...
BC 3102 3179
Here is my calculations. Besides staying true to Kali Yuga, I stayed true to Julian / Gregorian calendars as well. I noticed that while subtracting 3179 years before 78 AD, you may have included year 0. When we are trying to find the Kali Yuga date and match it to the Christian calendar, you have to ignore 0. I also did read your posts from questions 20 to 23, and I have noticed that for the screenshot of the astro software, you may have misinterpreted the date as -3101 in astro software actually means 3102 BCE. But yes, you are right about the date being 23 January.
AD 78 No. of years before 78
AD 77 1
AD 76 2
AD 75 3
AD 74 4
AD 73 5
AD 72 6
AD 71 7
AD 70 8
AD 69 9
AD 68 10
AD 67 11
AD 66 12
AD 65 13
AD 64 14
AD 63 15
AD 62 16
AD 61 17
AD 60 18
AD 59 19
AD 58 20
AD 57 21
AD 56 22
AD 55 23
AD 54 24
AD 53 25
AD 52 26
AD 51 27
AD 50 28
AD 49 29
AD 48 30
AD 47 31
AD 46 32
AD 45 33
AD 44 34
AD 43 35
AD 42 36
AD 41 37
AD 40 38
AD 39 39
AD 38 40
AD 37 41
AD 36 42
AD 35 43
AD 34 44
AD 33 45
AD 32 46
AD 31 47
AD 30 48
AD 29 49
AD 28 50
AD 27 51
AD 26 52
AD 25 53
AD 24 54
AD 23 55
AD 22 56
AD 21 57
AD 20 58
AD 19 59
AD 18 60
AD 17 61
AD 16 62
AD 15 63
AD 14 64
AD 13 65
AD 12 66
AD 11 67
AD 10 68
AD 9 69
AD 8 70
AD 7 71
AD 6 72
AD 5 73
AD 4 74
AD 3 75
AD 2 76
AD 1 77
BC 1 78
BC 2 79
BC 3002 3079
BC 3003 3080
BC 3004 3081
BC 3005 3082
BC 3006 3083
BC 3007 3084
BC 3008 3085
BC 3009 3086
BC 3010 3087
BC 3011 3088
BC 3012 3089
BC 3013 3090
BC 3014 3091
BC 3015 3092
BC 3016 3093
BC 3017 3094
BC 3018 3095
BC 3019 3096
BC 3020 3097
BC 3021 3098
BC 3022 3099
BC 3023 3100
BC 3024 3101
BC 3025 3102
BC 3026 3103
BC 3027 3104
BC 3028 3105
BC 3029 3106
BC 3030 3107
BC 3031 3108
BC 3032 3109
BC 3033 3110
BC 3034 3111
BC 3035 3112
BC 3036 3113
BC 3037 3114
BC 3038 3115
BC 3039 3116
BC 3040 3117
BC 3041 3118
BC 3042 3119
BC 3043 3120
BC 3044 3121
BC 3045 3122
BC 3046 3123
BC 3047 3124
BC 3048 3125
BC 3049 3126
BC 3050 3127
BC 3051 3128
BC 3052 3129
BC 3053 3130
BC 3054 3131
BC 3055 3132
BC 3056 3133
BC 3057 3134
BC 3058 3135
BC 3059 3136
BC 3060 3137
BC 3061 3138
BC 3062 3139
BC 3063 3140
BC 3064 3141
BC 3065 3142
BC 3066 3143
BC 3067 3144
BC 3068 3145
BC 3069 3146
BC 3070 3147
BC 3071 3148
BC 3072 3149
BC 3073 3150
BC 3074 3151
BC 3075 3152
BC 3076 3153
BC 3077 3154
BC 3078 3155
BC 3079 3156
BC 3080 3157
BC 3081 3158
BC 3082 3159
BC 3083 3160
BC 3084 3161
BC 3085 3162
BC 3086 3163
BC 3087 3164
BC 3088 3165
BC 3089 3166
BC 3090 3167
BC 3091 3168
BC 3092 3169
BC 3093 3170
BC 3094 3171
BC 3095 3172
BC 3096 3173
BC 3097 3174
BC 3098 3175
BC 3099 3176
BC 3100 3177
BC 3101 3178
BC 3102 3179
@Aadikeshava Reddy,
What you say is as per the redundant concept of western time keeping.
Even the recently introduced Astronomical convention includes 0 year but makes 2nd BCE as -1
https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEhelp/dates.html
What I am saying is the Indic system of Time keeping which is far advanced than any astronomical system by including 0 year. That year was 'Raudra'. There is no BC and CE. There is continuous counting by means of year names.
All these were mentioned by me in my previous reply.
But still you stick to your redundant stance.
Please learn that astronomy simulations and conventions do not apply to Indic Time of Kali Yuga.
I used astrology simulator which incorporates 0 year.
Without 0 year, Kali yuga dates will go awry if you start finding out the date of inscriptions.
You cannot simply match 3102 BCE with Indic features such as year name, solar moth tithi etc. The astrology calendar is different. For the Indic dates we simply give the Gregorian year number. That is all.
To know why astronomy simulations do not apply to Indic events, read the 1st chapter of my Mahabharata book.
To know for yourself that 0 year is incorporated in astrology simulations, download Jhora and check 0 year.
To know how to use the astrology simulator to date an inscription read my book on Aditya karikala. This kind of dating is applied to us till date in our Time keeping.
Don't bring any more of the same stuff on Time saying that Kali Yuga started in 3102 BCE.
Search my website for the series of articles on the same topic.
Anyways, here is some comments:
"Attention!You entered the year -3101. Please use astronomical rather than historical year numbers. The astronomical year -3101 corresponds to the historical year 3102 BCE."
"Attention!You entered the year 0. Please use astronomical rather than historical year numbers. The astronomical year 0 corresponds to the historical year 1 BCE."
If you refuse to change your mind on this, I do not need to argue with you anymore on this.
As a wise man once said, you cannot win both Lakshmidevi and Saraswathidevi.
Signing off.
It is no use telling an unwise man that the Indic historic calendar system with its own date features is different from what astronomy simulators produce.
You better sign off than wasting my time here.
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