Friday, November 1, 2019

Abuse, bully, disrespect, discredit – know the true face of The Jaipur Dialogues!


All that glitters is not gold – the latest sample case is the most un-civil and unprofessional way that The Jaipur Dialogues 2019 behaved with me yesterday. It all started with a tweet from Mr Sanjay Dixit for my 2nd video completely demolishing the so-called Epoch of Arundhati  based on my book Myth of the Epoch of Arundhati of Nilesh Nilkanth Oak. He asked me what was the point in releasing the videos and challenged  me to debate with Nilesh Oak.



The response I got for my polite answer to him shocked me, coming as it did from the official handle of The Jaipur Dialogues 2019 (JD), accusing me of running away from the debate and calling such debate as Indic tradition. What followed after that is reproduced below that demonstrated what kind of Indic tradition that Handle stands for – continuous bullying and disrespecting the one whom it is calling for debate, while at the same time protecting Nilesh Oak, who has not yet answered to me directly to my book and my videos.




I continued to reply politely but what I got back is shown in the tweet below.


Then further twisting happened accusing me that I asked for the debate but ran away. It is unbelievable that this organisation is proving in full public glare, its un-civil and unprofessional way of talk to one whom it called for debate. The entire idea seemed to belittle me and discredit me.



To my insistence on credentials of the panelists comes the same kind of bullying retorts. It was then I decided to take head on and reply in the same buck.



Since I was completely against each one of the contestants choosing their own referees, which is not the Indic way of settling an important issue of the date of Mahabharata, I suggested a panel of Indic scholars of repute known for their research in Mahabharata. Look at their reply. They can’t accept these scholars, because - I am presumed to think due to their illogical adamancy - that Nilesh Oak is rattled. The fact is no scholar of repute accepted Oak’s date of Mahabharata and his Epoch, for, it is not Indic. But the handle that is supposed to stand for Indic cause, oblivious of the damage Nilesh Oak has done to Indic Thought continued to abuse me, deride me and bully me.



When Mr Manish Pandit, one of the panelists I mentioned chose to opt out (see their response in the first tweet below) they could not go ahead with the rest of the panelists. I said that this panel would include Mr Oak’s referee too. Once again they resorted to same bullying tactic against me. Its just laughable that they are doing this without knowing what I have written of Oak’s book and how I have established the Mahabharata date. Clearly whoever is behind this handle is NOT aware of the gravity of the Mahabharata dating and NOT after Knowledge. For saying this, I am bullied as being self-certifying. Getting funnier to see the handle tow the familiar line that almost all Indic scholars have received from Mr Nilesh Nilkanth Oak.


I leave it to the readers to count the number of times this handle abused me as being scared or running away and demeaning my work – which you hardly expect from a professional organisation.



Repeating the same, makes me think that they are agenda driven, that there is something cosy between Nilesh Oak and Jaipur Dialogues that I have intruded. How to drive me out? Here is the trick which is nothing but the same old trick used by Mr Nilesh Oak umpteen times.


Disgusting display of low standard! 
But then a sudden U-turn. No panel. Let people be the judges! 
A solution Mr Nilesh Oak very much likes. Mr Nilesh Oak knows pretty well that he cannot refute my rebuttals. If he can he could have come out by now. He only produced a small video of mediocre idea and released through a third party. Nobody owned up that video. I did refute that video also. The game plan is very clear now after seeing the tweet. Let people decide.


My response is given below.



The ‘Dialogue’ has come to a full circle!  
Readers can now start reading from the first tweet again to see what I mean.

In the first tweet Mr Sanjay asked me what was the point in releasing the videos. I released it for everyone to see and judge. Now he (his official handle) has said the same thing. If this is what he / they had in mind, why did he shoot out that first tweet? Is it because he thought that I would run away and not trouble Mr Nilesh Oak? What has Mr Nilesh Oak got to do with him / JD, that he/ JD kept bullying me that I am scared and I would run away?

This kind of questions came up in my mind earlier too when for the first time I received a tweet from Mr Sanjay Dixit making a caustic remark to my interview in PGurus for my reply to the interviewer on whether I agree with Nilesh Oak’s date of Ramayana. To my question-specific reply, I was trolled by Oak’s followers – available in that link – in the usual way that they used to troll anyone who disagrees with Oak. 
Mr Sanjay Dixit and Jaipur Dialogues 2019 seem to be recent additions to that troll-roll.  


As usual and in my usual nature I gave a polite answer.


Mr Sanjay’s tweet itself is demonstrative of how less he knows of Mr Nilesh Oak’s work. It is absolute zero with reference to my book or videos. This is demonstrated by the last tweet I noticed before starting to write this blog. The Jaipur Dialogues 2019 re-tweeted a tweet that gloats as not having read my book or Oak’s book, but judged me as a PhD student who hasn’t produced much in 4 years but wanting her lab partner to be her defence counsel!



By this tweet can I conclude that JD / Mr Sanjay had not read my book and Mr Oak’s book? My first question to him was whether he had read my book. Without knowing what I have written and what Mr Oak has written and whether Mr Oak has really corroborated 550+ inferences, he was doing shoot and scoot – to use his language.

Having said in detail all the happenings so far, my thoughts are, 

1. If my works are not to their standard, why did they call me for a debate?

2. If they don’t consider me as a scholar, why did they call me for debate and kept bullying me throughout. Even if as they say, I called for a debate, why did they accept that?

3. If they decide to organise a debate and if they have etiquette, they should know how to invite a scholar for debate, and not hurl abuses and caustic remarks.

4. It clearly shows a hidden agenda that anyone challenging the work of Mr Oak should be trolled, driven out of the arena which many of us have experienced always.

5. The evidence for point 4 is in subsequent trolls in PGurus video on Ramayana Timeline discussion.

6. Finally this debate and the organisation arranging the debate are not dependable, they are biased and want to defend Mr Oak by hook and crook.

8. So I decided to put a full stop to this troll and keep releasing my videos in public and have displayed  my work in academia.edu for scholars and non scholars to read and deduce.

9. For writing this, again I expect trolls that I am running away, but I will be happy to add such tweets here that would strengthen public perception of the other side of Jaipur Dialogues 2019.


Update :


Newer descriptions. Seems I can write a paper on Troll culture!

1st response: "Whining scholar, more interested in authority than truth"



2nd Response: "I am not gracious" and make excuses!!


3rd response: I am "combative". That is I must not react to their abuses.


4th response: Toned down.


5th response: Polished way of saying I ran away. 


6th response: Certificate for my self certification!


Hitting from the sides: That is Nilesh Oak's style.  Mr Nilesh Oak re-tweeted many. Sample given.




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It is my sincere hope that a panel of experts from Mahabharata research community, astrology community and science community on spectral science, lunar planetary orbit and comet-science from IIT-s and ISRO – all of which are integral for understanding my book – to be constituted to discuss my defence of traditional Mahabharata date. If agreeable it would solve the greatest issue of Indic past – that of validating the traditional date of Mahabharata war and Kali Yuga as well.

May the redeemed Ma Arundhati bless us!


Read two crucial chapters of my book here:

Deduction of Mahabharata date: “Date of Mahabharata from Internal Evidences



Exposing the Mr Oak’s claim of corroborating 550+ evidences: “List of manipulations done by Nilesh Oak to 'corroborate' his Mahabahrata date




Read the Modus Operandi of Nilesh Oak to tackle anyone who criticizes his 'research': 

My book critiquing the book of Mahabharata -dating by Nilesh Oak is now free for download here: https://www.academia.edu/44757153/Myth_of_The_Epoch_of_Arundhati_of_Nilesh_Nilkanth_Oak