I was wondering how a retro Jupiter which is good for India – a chance that Jupiter as Dharma devatha rarely gets once in a few years – proved to be the anchor for the death of a Chief Minister of India.
Jupiter is badly placed in Indian natal chart. It is the lord of the 8th house and also the lord of the 22nd Drekkana, being placed in a dusthana in the 6th where again it was badly afflicted by occupying the Mrityu bhaga. This means the birth of Indian Independence came with the death of Dharma – the Sanatana dharma of this land. I used to think perhaps this is the way Kali can progress in this ancient
Every terror attack in our country has had Jupiter badly afflicted at the moment of attack.
I have done a vast study of all the major terror attacks since 1993 and found that Jupiter had been afflicted in all those attacks. The exception was the attack in
Coming to the issue at hand, I did not expect anything bad to happen to
From the Indian perspective, a powerful Jupiter can be a big boon to the safety of the nation. Throughout the period of mutual aspect of Mars and Saturn in July-August 2009, Jupiter was throwing a safety net, thereby thwarting many a terror plots or minimizing the terror impact wherever they took place.
Kasab, the only surviving terrorist of the Mumbai attack (
During this period, the government of
The Saadhvi (of supposed Hindu terror) who was implicated in Malegoan terror attack was exonerated by the Supreme Court during this period.
The only ever conviction of the terrorists took place in this period only when the 2003 Mumbai- attack conspirators were sentenced.
I was recording every event during this period that showed success for Dharma.
But I didn’t expect the death of a CM – that too happening at the exact moment when Jupiter was transiting the death degrees in its power-packed transit to uphold Dharma.
But it did and it means that there is some element of justice in Jupiter’s ways.
The celestial chart for the time of loss of contact with the CM’s chopper contains some imprints of the ways of this planet of Justice. And when I analyzed his birth chart, I found why it happened like that.
Now let us first look at YSR Reddy’s birth chart.
I was given two timings
The Vipareeta Raja yoga has catapulted him to power circles with the onset of Sun’s Maha dasa. The Chandraadhi yoga has given him power with the onset of Rahu dasa. (Rahu is in the asterism of Mercury who is involved in Chandradhi and Harsha yoga)
I wont call this as a very good Raja yoga horoscope, for, I have seen much better charts. His wealth will of course be intact and will be inherited by his family.(D-4)
His life is midway of Madhyayu (madhyayu must give 70 plus years) – made so by the lagna lord occupying the 8th with mutual aspect with the 11th lord Mars while the 8th lord is in the 8th of 11th and in 6th from lagna.
Importantly moon is in 12th and the 8th from moon (itself) in 12th to lagna reduces a long life. Jupiter’s aspect to the 8th from Moon has granted him this much longevity.
His death came in Rahu dasa (Rahu in the constellation of Mercury and mercury is the maarak – death causing - from Moon) and Ketu Bhukti (Ketu in the constellation of Mars. Mars is the 12th lord from Moon)
From this let us now move on to the nature of his death.
Prasna Marga always proves to be a valuable guide in detecting the nature of death.
Prasna marga :- Chapter 11-16
“If Saturn is in association with Mars or the Sun in Aries, Scorpio or Leo, occupies agnibhuta with or aspected by Rahu or Gulika, the person will be burnt to death. If Saturn is associated with watery planets, death will be due to falling in boiling waters. If Saturn occupies jalabhuta or watery signs he will die by drowning.”
In YSR’s chart, Saturn is in Leo and occupies the cusp of Agnibhuta and Vayu bhuta at 43 minutes of the arc (when worked out as per Dr BV Raman’s explanation to Prasna marga). At 40 minutes of the arc of the 4th yama in Saturn’s Drekkana, agni bhuta ends and vayu bhuta begins.
That means the death has occurred in air (before the chopper reached the ground). The agni or fire element had entered just prior to the moment of death.
A further elaboration of why one should get such an end is explained in the 18th verse of that chapter.
Prasna marga :- Chapter 11-18
“If a weak and badly situated Saturn occupies a sign of Mars or has the association or aspect of Mars, death results from the troubles of evil spirits as Chamundi etc., if Mars and Gulika, he will be afflicted by an enemy’s abhichara, if by Sun and Gulika, the death will be due to the wrath of God Shiva.”
Saturn is in an inimical sign in the rasi which happens to be the sign of Leo lorded by Sun.
Mars aspects it from its own constellation.
It is probable that his family deity or the deity connected with his family in the past was Chamundi or a female Pratyadi devatha or an Ugra devatha.
In his new found interests in an alien religion, he has neglected that deity.
That has given its verdict.
When I look at his death time chart it gives further inputs.
Gulika and Mandhi in Vishaka (star of Jupiter)
Jupiter in Mrityu bhaga (point of death)
Sun (
Sun has played the wreck in its own house which became the 8th house of death from Jupiter.
In the National perspective, Jupiter which is currently going in a Dharmic spree stood as Yama. From Prasna marga perspective, Sun capturing Saturn in its orb in Leo spells the wrath of Shiva.
The horoscope of YSR Reddy clearly shows a wrong done to an Ugra, female devatha and Shiva.
Jupiter’s current transit shows that there is some justice in the destiny of this nature.
People are angry about his dealings in Thirumala temple. The reactionary destiny for it will happen to him in a future birth. Whatever was done to belittle or destroy Sanatan dharma also will be paid in a future birth.
I may sound harsh but that is what astrology, the eye of the Veda Purusha reveals.
Every time I go through a chart like this, I understand the cry of Veda Vyas
and experience the same feeling…
"I lift up my hands and I shout
But no one listens.
From dharma comes wealth and pleasure
Why is dharma not practised?"
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11 comments:
Hello mam...first of all i thank you for your patience in analysing the chart of our CM YSR..Your explanation of the tragic event astrologically seems to be perfect...But i just saw in wensite of the great astrologer SHRI K.N.RAO garu{www.journalofastrology.com},he has taken lagna of ysr as aquarius and explained the event.
If you have time just verify the lagna of ysr whether it is aquarius or capricon....
thankyou
Thanks Mr Shekar for bringing to notice the JOA article.
Whatever be the change in time in that day, the planetary degrees of long term planets do not change.
The Prasna marga based analysis for nature of death takes into consideration the degrees of Saturn and the aspect of Mars on Saturn. So that analysis does not change.
As I said I was given 2 timings one at 8pm and another at 10pm. I browsed the net and got further concurrence for 8 pm only. Anyway I wanted to confine myself only on those issues, which do not change with these 2 timings.
You can find that I didn't comment on his medical education and political power. Because they are not the same for these two timings.
But the issues I have highlighted such as the longevity reckoned from moon and nature of death reckoned from the position of Saturn are the same for both the timings.
For the birth time at 10:42 pm, the aspect of 10th lord on 10th and Jupiter's aspect on the 10th lord go well with making him a powerful politician.
For this time, the end has come in Rahu-Ven. Venus is baadhak for Kumba lagna. Venus in the asterism of the 12th lord Saturn does give maarak properties.
Ketu in the 8th in Rasi and Drekkana - in the asterism of Mars gives unnatural death from Martian significances. (Ketu is in the asterism of Mars)
So in my opinion, this time (10:42pm) also is probable as it explains his political power and the death indications.
The prasna marga analysis of the nature of death stands the same irrespective of this change in time.
Appears the 8pm option cannot be ignored. Well presented assessment, related topics and warnings.
Coincidently Makara rasi is rising now..
Hi Jayasree,
How long does this good period for India ie jupiter being in retro last ?
Thanks,
Gopal
Guru retrogression lasts till October 13th 2009.
The worst result of minority appeasement and cross border terrorism will begin from moon maha dasa which starts in Sep 2015 and lasts for 10 long years.
Dear Mr SP,
I too strongly think that 8 pm or Capricorn lagna is more acceptable.
YSR's horoscope is of interest to any astrologer from the conversion angle.
If he is a convert and not a born Christian, Capricorn lagna looks suitable.
Though I dont know much about astrology of the converts, I do have some case studies including AR Rahman's from which I can see a pattern.
In all the case studies I have (which are however not enough to study conversion), the 9th lord gets connected to the 6th and 12th houses while Jupiter (indicating Vedic religion)is adverse or in adverse axis with the 9th lord.
For Capricorn lagna, the 9th lord Mercury in 6th with 8th lord and aspected by the mind, the moon from the 12th showing a drift to para-matham. (foreign religion - 12th connection). The 12th lord is in debility and in retro in the lagna showing a pervert mind set strongly influencing the person.
In addition the 9th house is aspected by Rahu who is associated with hatred to Veda dharma. Most importantly Rahu is in the asterism of Mercury the 9th lord in 6th. His penchant for destroying Hinduism is seen in this.
Again form the perspective of western astrology, if mercury joins Uranus and is powerful, the the person will be engaged in conversion activities. Uranus is at 1:42 degrees Gemini whereas Mercury is at 4:20 degrees. Uranus is in the asterism of Mars.
I checked this conversion aspect in choosing between 8 pm and 10 pm.
This goes well with 8 pm birth time only.
In 8 pm birth time, I wont say that he is a big political leader, whereas in 10 pm birth time, he is one.
I think he is not a good political leader. He is made so now after his death. May be 12th lord being Jup in retro in lagna gets him fame after death. He may even be given a Bharat ratna by the UPA govt.
Dear Jayasree,
I do not think such an anti hindu CM who wanted to steal the wealth of lord venkateshwara deserves any analysis,
www.tamilhindu.com
Rgds
Ravi
Dear Ravi,
Such an analysis helps us in identifying YSR type of persons.
I FIND COMMON IN HOROSCOPE OF POPULAR FIGURES WHO LOST THEIR LIFES IN ACCIDENTS HAVE CLOSE CONNECTIONS WITH 3RD AND 8TH LORD.
A) PRAMOD MAHAJAN - BJP LEADER
B) MADHAVA ROA SCINDIA- CONGRESS
C) YSR - A P c m
PRAMOD MAHAJAN- MITHNA LAGNA, 7TH AND 8TH LORD SATURN IN 3RD HOUSE SIMHA RASSI WHOSE LORD SUN IS NEECHA AT TULA. 11TH HOUSE HAS RAHU IN MESHA. WHEN HE WAS RUNNING SATURN DASA, HE WAS SHOT DEAD DURING SATURN- RAHU BUKTHI. SATURN DESPOSITER LORD SUN IS NEECHA AT TULA AND RAHU IS IN MESHA AT SATURN NEECHA SIGN ASPECTED BY NEECHA SUN. 3RD LORD SUN DENOTES BROTHER AND 7TH MARAKA AND 8TH DEATH GIVING PLANET SATURN IN 3RD PLACE ( 8TH FROM 8TH LORD) WHOSE DESPOSITER SUN IS NEECHA. SO HE WAS KILLED BY HIS OWN BOTHER IN WHICH 3RD AND 8TH LORD AND DESPOSITER PLAYED ROLE.
2)MADHARAO SCINDIA - LAGNA IS VRITCHIKA WHOSE 3RD AND 4TH LORD SATURN IS IN 8TH HOUSE AT MITHUNA WHOSE LORD MERCURY IS NEECHA AT MEENA. SCINDIA DIED IN ACCIDENT DURING SATURN DASA MERCURY BHUKTHI
AS SATURN DESSPOSITER MERCURY IS NEECHA BEING THE LORD OF 8TH WHILE SATURN IS THE LORD OF 3RD.
3)YSR - HIS LAGNA IS KUMBHA WHOSE LORD IS SATURN IN 7TH PLACE ASPECTING LAGNA WHICH HELPED HIM TO BE LIFTED TO THIS POSITION.
HIS SECOND HOUSE IS OCCUPIED BY RAHU STANDING IN THE CONSTILLATION OF MERCURY (REVATHI STAR) BEING THE LORD OF 8TH AND KEDU IN 8TH HOUSE STANDING IN THE STAR OF MARS ( CHITRAI)LORD OF 3RD HOUSE.
MAIN THING IS RAHUS DESPOISTER JUPITER IS IN 12TH HOUSE AT NEECHA REPEAT NEECHA AT MAKARA RASSI.
YSR DIED IN RAHU - KEDU BHUKTHI WITH RAHUS DESPOSITER JUPITER IS NEECHA AND RAHU IN 8TH HOUSE STAR WHILE KEDU IN 8TH HOUSE AT 3RD HOUSE STAR. SO ACCIDENT OCCURED.
FINAL CONCLUSION, NO MATTER HOW LAGNA , NO MATTER HOW 9TH HOUSE OR 5TH HOUSE OR JUPITER ASPECT IS GOOD
IF 3RD AND 8TH HOUSES DASA RUNNING WITH THIER DESPOSITER IS NEECHA, ONE COULD BE SURE OF ACCIDENTAL DEATH/
I HAVE THREE MORE SUCH HOROSCOPES WHO ARE NOT POPULAR FIGURES LIKE ABOVE PEOPLE AND HENCE FINAL CONCULATIONS ARE-
1) DESPOSITERS OF 3RD OR 8TH LORD SHOULD BE IN GOODPOSITION.
2) 8TH LORD SHOULD NOT BE STRONGER THAN LAGNA LORD AND THEIR STRONG DASA OF 8TH OR 3RD LORD SHOULD NOT BE RUNNING.
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Samuel was an abominable goonda and a ruthless self serving undignified monster'His death was such that his Christian evangelism like Dhinakaran's had not saved him. on the contrary this was the wages of sin.His billions will place his upstart son to ensure continuity of Hindu decimation'
Seetharam
Hi Jayasree,
Great analysis of YSRs death tragedy. It is a multi-dimension analysis. Hope good days come to India, good politicians rule India and sanathana dharma be protected.
Any how thank you for the study..
sasi
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