Creation of Telangana is not a solution. This Telangan issue was discussed twice before in this blogspot. An astrological analysis was done in this article : "Andhra splits – Saturn effect?" in 2009, saying that
"These combinations foretell political problems, strained relations within the people, disputes and parting of ways between those who were together until then.
Its woes will not end but continue after that when Saturn and Rahu joins in the 8th house (Libra) for Andhra in 2013.
This is not a good time for Indian internal scenario too as this combination happens in the 4th house to Indian natal moon."
In another article I wondered whether there is any Christian agenda behind Telangana demand?
I came across views both for and against the formation of Telangana which can be read under these two articles.
The main reason that Telangana supporters were saying was that they did not flourish and they were a neglected lot in the larger picture of Andhra Pradesh. If that was there problem, the solution lies not in seceding away. Better management right up to the grass root level must be and can be done.
In a country of Durga Nagpals who are penalised by the political masters for doing their jobs, the excuse of administrative reason does not hold water. If a part of a State does not show development, it is because the political rulers have no stake in that part. By seceding that part as a solution, we are actually dividing the people on the basis of their own wraths, anger, self interests and so on which would be further nurtured by vested interests to keep that part as their pocket borough so that the people cling on to them as their saviour as long as their problems still remain unaddressed. The result is that their problems would not be solved or how else the politicians can continue to survive?
The British policy of divide and rule is exactly aimed at keeping sections of people pitted against each other for ever so that their exploitation can continue without being challenged. Such a division on the basis of castes and religion had been happening ever since Independence. Now when those issues have started showing diminishing returns, newer divisions are being resorted to. The division of Andhra Pradesh comes under this category.
This is demonstrated in the way Digvijay Singh has reminded TRS of its offer to merge with the Congress if its demand for Telangana is met with. With election around the corner, the congress has offered Telangana formation. It is shocking that this crass opportunism has not been criticised but just termed as political expediency by our lame media. Are we a commodity to be divided and bartered to fulfil the ambitions of politicians and political parties? The motive of the politicians for division, defeats the so-called aspirations of the people for division.
We are not like the United States where many states are there with better administration for themselves. There the culture is the same, the language is the same and there are hardly any elements that differentiate one from the other. Moreover there are only two parties throughout the United States with less scope for multiple posturing. But in India within every 100 km you find a difference in the identity of people. The differences in caste, language and religion are being kept alive by politicians and those with political ambitions. The result is that there are many islands within a state working with cross purpose with others around them. If these islands are going to get legitimacy by becoming a state, then also the frictions are going to be there with an unchallenged scope of igniting chauvinism and self interest which would have less space for accommodation for others from rest of India.
Today the nation is facing the prospect of a fractured mandate in the hustings and instability in the Centre after 2014 elections. With more states in the kitty, there is going to be more regional parties who cannot work for a United India. Continuing instability at the national level is going to be the result of all this. It seems my oft repeated fear of bad patch for India in Moon dasa from 2015 to 2025 to be a period of instability, internal bickering and external threats will have its genesis in Telangna formation. Andhra Pradesh already had a notorious name as the forerunner in linguistic division of India. Now again it is leading another round of division which is going to make India an Africa!
Telangana is going to give legitimacy to all notorious secessionist elements in the country. Even peaceful states are going to bear the brunt of Telangana mania. In Tamilnadu, Telangana echo can be heard in Ramdoss, Seeman and the Kongu leaders who had expressed their wish for separate states from Tamilnadu. Ramdoss would ask for a Vanniyar state saying that Vanniars are the deprived lot and are poor ever addicted to boozing. Karnunanidhi would want South Tamilnadu to become a separate state to satisfy his Son Alagiri. The Christians would ask for secession of Kanya kumara and Nagarkoil saying that they are backward states. Already the converted Christians of these districts have raised an objection to the building up of the Tirupati like Balaji temple in the district. How crooked and narrow their agenda is! Will this kind of attitude promote Nationalism or unity among the people?
The underlying reason for these demands is that they would all become the fiefdoms of politicians who could find it easier to keep a smaller state under their grip. It is like the Pancha Tantra film dialogue of "Chinna kallu, peddha laabham" . With little efforts they can make huge profits. When the politicians have to operate in a smaller region or for a select group of people, their effort and expenditure are less and rewarding than working on larger region with more interferences to their focussed regions. This is the exact reason behind the clamour for division into smaller states.
The aims and ambitions of these smaller states would always be in clash with neighbouring states. Already every state is having problems with neighbouring states. The politicians would keep whipping up emotions against other states to keep their grip strong. Presently this is happening between the states where chauvinism of sorts is being developed in the name of democracy and voicing people'e aspirations. This is mis-use of democracy.
Coming to Telangana issue, one of the reasons put forward by the supporters is that they have a historical past that gives them an identity which they can preserve and nurture if they have their own State. They obviously refer to the Muslim rule in the recent past. There is also news that Urdu is going to be the first language in Telangana. Didn't they have a past before that? Their history started from Trilinga kshetras that gave them an identity as Trilinga – Tailinga – Telanga! It was a Linga kshetra bound by a triangular land. The shape of Telangana tells it all!
Let people know that a trianglular land is prohibited for living as per Vastu sastra. It is called as TrikONAkAra BhUmi. According to Raja Martanda, "Raja bhIthi strI kONasya suta saukhya vinAshanam". In present day terms, this means threat from (kings) employers and loss of employment and loss of well being of children! Triangular site will take a toll on children. Triangular site would not allow material progress.
I have said in so many times in my previous articles how a triangular land is a place of manifestation of unknown energies. These energies can be trapped and tapped only by worship and consecration done in the Hindu way! When done in that way, the land would prosper with peace and knowledge.
India also is triangular in shape and its people in the past were guided well to lead a pious life so that the defects arising out of the triangle were warded off by the force of energies that were trapped as Gods.
There was a triangular bhumi in India similar to the present shape of Telangana. It has been found out by archaeological excavations during the British period. It had a triangular shape bound by walls and by towns on three sides. This place is known as Ahichhatra, corrupted from Ahi- Kshetra, the capital of Panchala country of Drupada of the Mahabharata period.
An important information related to this site is that it is here the Yajna was held from which Draupadi emerged. It is unbelievable that a person can appear or be born out of a Yajna kunda. But the shape of the city itself in a triangle makes me say that any wonder is possible in a triangle provided people know how to extract the benefits of a triangle.
There are triangle shaped places in the world where wonders have been witnessed. For example England that is experiencing many crop circles every year is triangle in shape. It is because of the presence of energies unknown to science.
Sicily which experiences many crop circles is also triangular in shape.
The Bermuda Triangle is a triangular part of the Ocean where unknown energies are at play.
In all these places, there is no human effort to trap that energy and make it beneficial for mankind.
But the Vedic rishis were able to trap the energy present in triangular Bharat and guided people on how to lead their life in concurrence to these energies trapped as supreme shakthi. Ahichhatra's shape offered a greater scope to use that energy to bring out a human being from a Homa Kunda.
The Trilinga Kshetra must have been established with a similar aim of trapping supreme energy from which people drew their spiritual strength.
But from the time it fell into Nizam's hands and the people having converted into Islam, that energy had been left to dissipate, with the result the original nature of TrikONa bhUmi had set in. A land where even onions and garlic must not be consumed, animals are killed for eating! Readers may recall the 3rd part pf Kedarnath articles where I have explained the manifestation of Kali to attract the subtle bodies of murdered beings. The region of Telangana, if seen with some aid to detect the subtle bodies would present land of negative energy. This region had never prospered due to this reason ever since it left out the Hindu way of treating a TrikONa bhumi. Now with the exact shape of a triangle, only Kali's wrath is going to be seen. This is not a curse but a caution.
After Kedarnath, now the Trilingas are going to do the Dandava of destruction. That is going to be echoed throughout India. A nation born at midnight in an inauspicious configuration is entering its Maraka period. I have no hope for a peaceful India, no hope for a future of India. Ved Vyasa's ominous words are ringing in my mind. (Mahabharata 6-9). He compared the kings who were always fighting with each other to snatch the land from one another, with dogs that fight with each other for meat. This land had come a long way after Vyasa's times. Today there are dogs, wolves and vultures fighting with each other over our land. Under the royal orders of a White Kali, Congress had become three in one – dogs, wolves and vultures together as one – with similar creatures following them.
17 comments:
Namate,
The one niggling question is, how come UK prospered despite this theory?
Another thing, if telangana is formed with two rayalaseema districts (Kurnool + Ananthapur), will this change?
Regards,
Shyam
//The one niggling question is, how come UK prospered despite this theory? //
England was more closer to a triangle in the past than today. Today it is sinking http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/6226537/England-is-sinking-while-Scotland-rises-above-sea-levels-according-to-new-study.html
Some day it will become like Bermuda triangle. The presence of unusual energy was recognised in the past by the Druids and was worshiped by them. Ever since Druidism was usurped, England had experienced instability of sorts. It became prosperous after it was merged with other regions and became United Kingdom. This happened only a few centuries ago. Today what is identified as England is not triangular. But the pre UK England was a peninsula which was almost triangular in shape. The triangular region is still experiencing unknown energy waves.
// if telangana is formed with two rayalaseema districts (Kurnool + Ananthapur), will this change?//
It is not desirable to have an exact triangular shape. But Vedic way of life and manifestation of Hindu Gods and non-killing for meat make the same land prosperous for its citizens. I have explained this many times in other articles.
Dear Madam,
Whatever may be the reasons split is painful.
Telugus in TN have a peaceful life our merge with Tamil culture is high that we are not considered as Telugus in AP. Last two generations Telugus cannot write and only speak dialect telugu with tamil mix.
Telangana region has been ignored by Andhriites which is true. Caste based politics & business is very high and with nature's grace to coastal regions has only divided them without proper policy.
Andhra congress CMs were puppets to high command with no self respect in past decades. I feel these were brewing factors for disunity.
Timing congress chose to take up this issue is disgusting. They delayed for 2 terms reaped as whole state & in the end palming off shows again contempt, towards people who gave largest support. deal of merger with TRS & their earlier buy of chiranjeevi's party shows their ugly plans for AP.
on whole congress is greatest evil to be routed.
Sheela
Dear Ms Sheela,
Just look back a 100 years ago. Telugu speaking people were larger in number than Tamil speaking ones in the United Madras Presidency. That shows widespread prevalence of Telugu throughout Andhra Pradesh with a considerable mix of Telugus and Tamils in cities in the Presidency.
If you go 1000 years backward, Telugus and Kalingas were fused then. At that time Trilinga desa was a very popular destination of pilgrims. It was a Dravida desa. According to Huen Tsang, for 500 miles north of Kanchipuram upto Ganjam was forested.Beyond that the region was called as Dravida proper as per census records of last century.
The trilinga kshetras must have been formed by Dravida Brahmins as they drifted southwards after 1500 BC when natural calamities struck North India. Kancheepuram, Goa (Kadamaba) and Kerala (around Aryan Kavu and Sabari malai) were the regions where the Dravida Brahmins lived. Their origin goes back to the time of Manu and before him too, in western extensions off Maharashtra. All these are sporadically found in census records. This shows that the history of South India - of telegu people - was totally different from what we are being taught now. When so much needs to be searched and deciphered, it sounds ridiculous to seek division on "historical" past.
Another point is that people in the past had mixed well. Until 200 years ago, so called castes were not rigid. Language was not an identity of a people. As you yourself say your Teleugu has become different due to the Tamil you have to speak here. But that does not alter your origins from Andhra. The job that one did gave the identity. People from different regions of India, though speaking different languages, found an affinity with those engaged in the same profession and had marriage alliances.
Like this there are so many issues. On the whole the present day identity that we have had no basis or prevalence until a few centuries ago. The division of land that is presently envisaged makes the differences too rigid and capable of creating more chaos.
Namaste,
The biggest mistake the congress did to the country was creating language based states. As Sheela said, there were many telugus in TN, karnataka, Maharastra. We did lost connection with all of them. Hope this will get corrected.
Regards,
Shyam
Dear Editor
Based on your astrological read, do you foresee India fragmenting like the Soviet Union in its Moon Dasa?
Remedial yagnas need to be done and please advise the powers that be or nationalist citizens to do so.
Thank you
Dear Madam,
Job identity had more affinity, telugu vaishyas were called as telugu chettys in TN. while telugu chettys leaned towards Vaishnavism, tamil chettys were to Saivism.
Krishnadevaraya times or after i heard there has been lot of shift of telugus into Thanjavur & its extents. (Saint Thyagaraja Telugu brahmin, whose ancestors shifted to Tiruvarur is a notable e.g)
Madurai has considerable numbers who flourished during Thirumalai Naicker times.
While we look at past people have been courteous & mutual respect which made them accomodative. Today its easy to create hatred, jealous & selfishness, all around with paid media grooming more evils.
Least we are glad is social media which makes us interact to know more.
Sheela
Unknown wrote
//Based on your astrological read, do you foresee India fragmenting like the Soviet Union in its Moon Dasa?
Remedial yagnas need to be done and please advise the powers that be or nationalist citizens to do so.//
First thing I foresee is that Telangana would start seeing many "Melvisharam"s within itself. To know what I mean, read this:
http://www.vijayvaani.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?aid=931
Owaisi factors would become powerful and the state would become hunting ground for Muslim and Christians conversionists. The triangular shape ensures continued struggle within sections of people of Telangana.
The Telangana effect has already started reverberating throughout India. Only solution is to change the constitution to facilitate 2-party system and Presidential form of government. Multiple parties are bleeding the nation. A CEO type of governance must take place.
I hope to see some better times in Mars Dasa.
Are there any remedial yajnas?
The best remedy is to follow the path of Dharma. Our country had never allowed deviation from Hindu Dharma. If you deviate form Hindu Dharma, better go out of the country - that was the way this land was maintained free of people and practices that were different from Hindu Dharma. This triangular land can prosper only with Hindu Dharma. The four yug(dharma)system is applicable only to India, because degradation (as seen now) would set in if Dharma is violated.
Ms Sheela wrote
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While we look at past people have been courteous & mutual respect which made them accomodative. Today its easy to create hatred, jealous & selfishness, all around with paid media grooming more evils.//
Yes, the first signs have appeared. TRS chief had said that Andhra people would be sent out of jobs in Telangana.
Recall the three articles I wrote on Human tongue (Manushya Bhasha). I am yet to write the rest of the articles on that series. I have collected considerable information on the roots of Indians in the past, say 3000 to 7000 years ago. It shows that the present division among people is false and unscientific.
One example in the context of Muslims in India. Readers may be aware of Pattahmadai mats which got Govt stamp recently. They are mostly made by Muslims. They think they have a distinct identity and are different from others in India. If we take weaving those mats as their identity that comes from unknown times, their origins go to Rig Vedic regions of Saraswathy and before that in South Indian Ocean from where a group had segregated by nature's fury to Polynesian islands. If a genetic study of Patthamadai Muslims, Kashmiri people and Polynesians is done, that would show a common origin for them 13,000 years ago south of the equator.
Today genetics holds the key for solving the differences between people. The way the politicians are accentuating the divisions, only genetics can play a role in debugging them.
I wrote
//Yes, the first signs have appeared. TRS chief had said that Andhra people would be sent out of jobs in Telangana. //
Is this India - Pakistan like division? Should we need this? Already every state is treating the neighboring states as enemies. Look at the way Kavery, Mullai periyar issues are being dealt.
Hello Madam,
Formation of Telangana is not a political gimmick. UPA has been promising separate statehood for Telangana since 2004. There are many other factors as to why there is a need for separation of Telanagana from andhra. People of Telangana were deceived,looted and robbed by andhra's.
I would like to reiterate that just do not jump to conclusion by superficial knowledge. Before giving out your opinion, please do some research. Blindly opposing the facts is not going to help you and I do not think that you have invested or made effort in knowing about the agitation of Telangana which has been going on since 1956.
Many agreements were violated after the merger which is why there is widespread demand for Telangana among all its people. Do you think,
all the people of Telangana are fools to demand separate statehood?
I can give you thousand reasons as to why Telangana is necessary. If you do want, please contact me and I can provide you the facts and other sources.
Taking anti stand towards Telangana without proper research does not help you in being non biased.
Hi Sree
I can give thousands of reason why Telangana should not be given. Also when seperate ANdhra movement is happening in 1970s why is the state not divided ??? Will you agree that in India all the states kick out people of Telangana origin back to Hyderabad
Hi Ram,
Let me remind you the fact that it was cunning andhraites who first started agitations in India for states to be formed based on language. Now if you have any face to talk to me, please justify your approach in 1950s and then talk about Telangana issue.
Now coming to other part of your question, since it was andhraites who demanded and got separate andhra state from Madras in 1950s, they should be kicked out from India and not Telangana.
Unfortunately every supporter of telangana would say a long list of things as damage to telangana. Most of them are either lies, half truths or exaggaration of petty issues. Srikrishna committe has already proven them wrong. But people just want to steal hyderabad with lies. Nothing more than that
yes, that's true. Telangana Politicians and People are listing just the lies. If the unjustice is happend to them, then they the politicians have not raised this and why did not people go to the law if that has really happend.
Sri Krishna comittee has put the real facts with figures and then T People started saying self respect and self rule. I think people who can't put their hardwork will keep demanding these kinds of needs.. where they can't compete..
Respected Jayasree Madam
I read this post once again today in the background of occurrence of fire in the closing stages of Chandi Homam initiated by the Chief Min8ster KCR of Telangana. I am speechless. Your observations in the last but one paragraph turned out to be a revelation. I request you to take up a complete analysis and your detailed guidance for us the present residents of Telangana. With best regards. Dr.Guru.Raghavan
Trikona bhumi is never fit for living or for material progress.
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