Thursday, November 28, 2019

Understanding equinoxes the Vedic way. (Part 4 critiquing Mr Nilesh Oak's date of Mahabharata)


The 4th video in a series of videos based on my book "Myth of 'The Epoch of Arundhati' of Nilesh Nilkanth Oak" critiquing the so-called Epoch of Arundhati and the date of Mahabharata deduced by Mr Nilesh Oak is now released.

Titled as “Understanding equinoxes the Vedic way” this video begins by stating the Western Astronomy concept of the equinoxes preceding through all the twelve signs of the zodiac in approximately 26,000 years. This is followed by the exposition of the version of Surya Siddhanta of the oscillating motion of the equinoxes in both forward and backward direction, each covering a distance of 54 degrees in 3600 years, totalling upto 7,200 years for one complete to and fro oscillation. As a result the vernal equinox can be located only within Pisces and Aries, with zero degree Aries becoming the central point of this oscillation.

This idea of oscillating equinox observed through ages by the Vedic sages has been handed down to the common folks in the form of Aryan dance, Thanjavur tilting doll and the story of Samudra Manthan. The to and fro movement of the churning done with the axis of the earth as the churning rod, with the giant turtle representing gigantism and control force as the base at the South Pole and the sloshing effect of the magma representing Vasuki, the serpent are deduced as the causes for the oscillating movement of the equinoxes, in addition of the gravitational impact of the Sun and the Moon.

Textual evidences are produced in support of the oscillating equinoxes and on how the winter solstice and the summer solstice cannot move beyond two signs. This concept has a phenomenal impact on the dating of ancient events of the Vedic society such as Mahabharata and Ramayana, if done using the softwares based on western astronomy. As such Mr Nilesh Oak’s work on the date of Mahabharata collapses due to non-adherence to the Vedic view of the equinoxes which is true and time-tested.

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14 comments:

A08 said...

Namaskar,

Surya SidhhAnt, Chapter 3, verse 9

First line, word starts with त्रिंशत् meaning 30, last part of word is कृत्या (name of first युग)
second word is युगे

1. Time is taken as sum of all four युग.

Unable to understand this,

2. also from where divisor number 600 is obtained.
Hundred in Samskrita is शत

I am putting a question mark on translation please.

Regards

Jayasree Saranathan said...

@A08

That’s the problem when you and I translate as though we are experts in Sanskrit. Go by the translation of experts in Sanskrit & astronomy.
Typical of Nilesh Oak!!!!

SS is not alone in this, other stalwarts of the past have given the same pattern giving similar number.

A08 said...
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Jayasree Saranathan said...

@A08,

Thank you very much for the details.
I know one person is desperately searching for some piece that denounces 7200 year cycle and upholds 26000 year cycle of western concept.
Please keep collecting many such evidences irrespective of what recent science reveals.
By the time you finish with the search, science would have established revised precession, the beginning of which is already detected in the increase in rate of precession.

Best wishes in your search.

A08 said...

Namaskar,

I have done some serious reading of Translations and interpretation of the SS Sutra, in Question. I am ready with a research paper on the subject. Objectives of the paper are
1. To examine the above mentioned discrepancy of 7,200 vs 26,000 and suggest correction(s) to the available original/interpreted text
2. Decipher the ratio and number of years ascribed to each Yuga.
This is my first ever attempt.
Would you kindly guide and help me to get the paper peer-reviewed and published in an appropriate journal/forum.

Kind regards
🙏🌸

Jayasree Saranathan said...

To the ID Ao8,

Just two thoughts:
1. Pity you.
2. Murder of Hindu Thought.

I can never be on the side of murderers of Hindu Thought.
Go to your friends who are ready to give platform and great applause.
Go to them.

This blog is only for the dharmic and not for those who usurp rishis and their works.
If possible challenge science behind this that is unveiling now.

A08 said...

Thank you for reading and your comments.

If I say,

What Greek astronomer Hipparchus noticed around 129 BC, was already enshrined in Surya Sidhhanta and being practised by Hindu Astrologers/Astronomers,

does it ring any bells?

Jayasree Saranathan said...

What you wrote originally was

// To examine the above mentioned discrepancy of 7,200 vs 26,000 and suggest correction(s) to the available original/interpreted text//
Corrections!, Besh besh.


A08 said...

Namaskar

Yes, I can feel the sarcasm, though Tamizh is Greek for me. Thank you.

I also wrote, 'This is my first ever attempt'

At my age, people not only make mistakes they commit blunders.

Moreover, It is merely the stated objective of the paper. Not that it shall be achieved as end-result. No claims whatsoever, made.

If you would be kind enough to review the paper and suggest changes, all will be incorporated. Changes are never big deal.

As already said, I am a beginner, both in Samskrita as well as Jyotish Ganita.

Regards.

Jayasree Saranathan said...

Your objective itself is wrong - rejecting 7200/year version of not just SS,, all the others sages. Given a table of others too in my 2nd part.
You don’t agree with emerging trends in science.
Then what for you are writing this?
You also say the end result of your paper need not be the same as your objective.
Then what for you are attempting this?

You will get like minded people to review and say yes to you.

Don’t waste your time here.
I won’t entertain this kind of mutilation and twisting of Indic thought.

Don’t expect me to clear this kind of comments for publishing.

A08 said...

सुप्रभातम्

अज्ञानतिमिरान्धस्य ज्ञानाञ्जन शलाकया
चक्षुरुन्मीलितम् येन तस्मै श्री ग़ुरवे नमः

Jayasree Saranathan said...

Let Dharma Devata open up your eyes like a Guru.

A08 said...

Namaskar,

Sharing conclusions of the study with you, for whatever these are worth for

Conclusions:
1. Surya Sindhhanta stipulates a period of precession of Earth as 24,000 years at the time of beginning of Srishti.
2. Further study outside Surya Sindhhanta is required to be carried out to answer this question.

Bibliography
1. Surya Sidhhanta, by Shri Rang Nath, Second Edition, Printed at Siddheshwar Press, Calcutta, 1891.
2. Surya Sidhhanta, by Late Mahavir Prasad Srivastava, Second Edition 1982, Published by Dr. Ratna Kumari Swadhyay Sansthan, Allahabad.
3. Surya Sidhhanta, by Rev. Ebenezer Burgess, Reprinted from second edition of 1860, Published by University of Calcutta 1935.
4. YouTube video by Dr. Ms. Jayasree Saranathan, https://bit.ly/2EIoFaO

Thank you for all the discussion.

Best Regards

A08 said...

After review there have been major corrections in the Research paper. Thanks for your comments.
Rather than deleting the previous comments, I am publishing corrected information.

Objectives:
1. To examine the disagreement of 7,200 vs 26,000 years and search for internal evidence in SS.
2. To decipher the ratio and number of years ascribed to each Yuga.

Abstract:
The aim of this paper is to look for and present internal evidence in Surya Siddhanta about period of precession of the Earth. The traditional thought is the trepidation, treated obsolete per modern astronomy. Yuga, a unit for time observations are stated to have specific associated numbers. However, why these were ab initio ascribed is not mentioned clearly. The paper ends with the findings that Surya Siddhanta estimated 24,000 years as period of precession of the Earth and suggested an elliptical motion for precession of the Earth’s axis. Also, that the properties of Yuga, need further research.

Best regards