Was Thirvalluvar a Christian? – Karunanidhi in the fore again.

Today Mr Karunanidhi is going to inaugurate

the 30 crore Rupees big- budget movie on St Thomas

at Santhome Basilica Campus in Chennai.

What is wrong in that, one may ask.

Yes, something is terribly wrong because

Thiruvalluvar is going be featured in this film on St Thomas!

And grapevine is that Rajini is going to enact as Thiruvalluvar!!

http://www.dc-epaper.com/deccanchronicle/default.aspx?BMode=100

Today’s Thuglak brought out a note on this movie

by pointing out a letter published in the

Deccan Chronicle dated 26-06-2008

that the information on the life of St Thomas as circulated among Indians

has no stamp of approval by the Vatican.

There had been many St Thomases in Christian chronology

but the Vatican clearly had not accepted this St Thomas

who was said to have visited India and stayed in Parangimalai in Chennai.

But what is of concern to us is that

the life story of this St Thomas contains an incident

of an argument with Thirvalluvar!!

It is even said that influenced by St Thomas,

Thiruvalluvar became a Christian.

The movie is going to feature Thiruvalluvar

And one wonders what it is going to portray of Thiruvalluvar.

Of all the people,

our Chief Minister, the torch-bearer of Thiruvalluvar,

who possesses the unique vision of seeing the past

to find out Thiruvalluvar’s birth year too,

is going to inaugurate this movie.

For one who acted as a patron for the very ‘research’

connecting Thiruvalluvar to St Thomas,

this is a case of mission coming to a completion.

The first attempt to paint Thiruvalluvar with Christian leanings

started as early as the sixties

and our Thiruvalluvar- loving Karunanidhi readily lent legitimacy to it.

The controversial book written by M. Deivanayakam,

“Thiruvalluvar Chrithuvara?”

had a foreword written by Karunanidhi.

He had written that

no Tamil would come forward to say that Thiruvalluvar plagiarized.

(does he mean to say that the book promotes the view that

Thiruvalluvar wrote Kural,

by copying St Thomas’s views?

If that book gives even a shred of such an opinion,

should he agree to write a fore word to it?)

He goes on to justify the book that such research works must be published.

http://209.85.175.104/search?q=cache:UPWoDb3qLiUJ:forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php%3Fp%3D174793+Deivanayagam+in+his+first+book-+Tiruvalluvar+Christhuvara%3F&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=in

“When M.Deivanayagam took the dubious researches of

KA.SU.Pillai, MaraimalaiAdigal and others and

submiited and received a PHD, saying Entire Tamil Literature-

Tirukural, Paripadal, KAlithogai. Thirumurugatrupadai ,Saiva sithanthangal etc.,

are influenced rather Valluvar copied Bible and

all were developed later under Bible infleunce by Thomas' alleged visit.

His books had blessings of all major churches,

rather Mylapur Archbishop funded them,

and I quote Deivanayagam in his first book- Tiruvalluvar Christhuvara?,

which had an Aninthurai by Mu.Karunanithi and released by Anbalagan

if I remember correct in 1969..

"Valluvar KAPPIYADITHAR ENAK KOORA

ENTHATH TAMILANUM MUNVARA MATTAN,

ANAL VIRUPPU Veruppu indri Aybavargal

thangal Aayvin mudivil Varum karuthugalai

veliyida pinvanginal avargal unmai aiyvalargal allar- Pa 131. "

(translation:- Karunanidhi has written :-

No Tamilian would say that Thiruvalluvar copied (from St Thomas)

But those who analyze without likes and dis-likes

should not hesitate to publish the result of their research.

If they hesitate, they are not true researchers. )

" Christhuvamagihiya Malaiyil irunthu Edukkappatta

Aramaagia Karungal Tamilagiya Gangayil .... Page- 173'

(end quote)

Karunanidhi’s love for ‘researches’

cutting into and maiming Hindu Thought is deep-rooted.

If some ‘Hindu’ or ‘Vedic’ tag is there,

he would not mind even if it is about denigrating

a divine poet like Thiruvalluvar.

Thirukkural is considered as Vedas.

But it should not be Aryan Veda.

If it is Vivilian Veda (Christian Bible), it is ok.

Karunanidhi will find his peace!

http://indiainteracts.com/utilities/printpage.php?source=blogcontent&id=2290&postid=69

(quote from the above link)

Karunanidhi hobnobbing with Christian forgers, frauds and fake researchers:

*“Thomas myth” has been exposing the shameless manufacture of evidences by the spineless Christians. But what is intriguing is the association and official patronage extended to such frauds by Karunanidhi as CM and as well as littérateur.

* In January 1997, he changed the name “Parangimalai” to “Thomas malai”, however, there were no takers

* Deivanayagam, John Samuel, Moses Michael Faraday and other fraudulent researchers in Siddhas and Saiva Siddhanta met Karunanidhi during 1996-2001 periods, as has been accepted by the group themselves recording in their propagandist literature.

Thus, the nexus is evident.

(quote ends)

The research that he admired as early as in the sixties,

had spread its tentacles further

and brought out its conclusion

that Thiruvalluvar was a disciple of St Thomas.

Deivanayakam has ‘established’

that Thiruvalluvar was the disciple of St Thomas

and was awarded Doctorate for that.

Starting from a fore-word to a book

to ending with the inauguration now,

Karunanidhi has served the cause of Thiruvalluvar very well!!

My question is

does he still have any moral authority

to talk of

Thiruvalluvar,

Thiruvalluvar aandu and

New year on Thiruvalluvar’s birthday?

-Not to mention Thirukkural..

his governance and Tasmac

are blots on his “kuralOviyam”.

-Jayasree

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Related post:-

Thiruvalluvar worshiped Sri Rama!!

http://hamsa.org/deivanayakam.htm

Dr. Deivanayakam Gets His Due 1

R.S. Narayanaswami

A controversial book written by a Christian drew strong criticism and attack from eminent Hindu scholars at a function in Madras on October 24, 1991.

The book titled Viviliyam, Tirukkural, Shaiva Siddhantam Oppu Ayvu, written by one Deivanayakam, 2 was published in 1985-86. It attempted to compare Bible, Tirukkural and Shaiva philosophy and concluded that Tiruvalluvar was a disciple of St. Thomas and that his sayings were only sayings from Bible. The writer had attempted to distort and misinterpret the Shaiva Siddhanta to suit his conclusions that all these works emanated from the preachings of St. Thomas who is said to have visited India in the first century A.D.

It was given to the Dharmapuram Math to issue a refutation. In spite of refutations from scholars through personal letters, Deivanayakam was unrelenting. Hence the Dharmapuram Shaiva Math had a book of refutation prepared by its very able Tamil and Shaiva scholar, Arunai Vadivel Mudaliar, and released it at a function.

The function organised by the Shaiva Siddhanta Sabha, was not very well publicised yet it had a gathering of over three hundred Tamil and Shaiva scholars. 3 The hall was packed to capacity. Justice N. Krishnaswami Reddiar, retired high court judge, presided.

Tamil and Shaiva scholar M.P. Somasundaram, who made the opening speech, deplored that in independent India freedom and rights were being misused to such an extent that books denigrating the ancient religion of the land were allowed to be written. He said the Christian book was a bundle of distortions, misconceptions and misinterpretations of Tirukkural verses and Shaivite philosophical works to suit the conclusions of the author-namely that Christianity had influenced Tiruvalluvar and the Nayanmars. The book was mischievous in content and aim, he asserted. He commended Arunai Vadivel Mudaliar and the Dharmapuram Math for bringing out a refutation.

Justice Krishnaswami Reddiar strongly criticised the modern tendency of publishing trash in the name of research. He said research must have an aim, a purpose, to get at the truth. Research was not meant to find evidence to denigrate an ancient faith. Research should not start with preconclusions or prejudices. Here the author's motive was to show the superiority of Christianity. Religion was based not only on facts but also on faith and beliefs. The book had hurt Hindu beliefs.

Justice Krishnaswami Reddiar quoted from the works of Sita Ram Goel and Ishwar Sharan and asserted that the visit of St. Thomas to India was a myth. He wondered how could such a book be published by [the International Institute of Tamil Studies, Adyar, Madras,] set up by the Government. It was a crime that such a book had been written and published and awarded a doctorate degree [by the University of Madras,] he said.

If such books were not refuted our progeny would find fault with us; and such books would pass as source material for future researchers. If there was no refutation, then such books would be accepted as telling the truth and would be used for further religious propaganda. He praised the Dharmapuram Math for taking pains to release the book of refutation.

Sarojini Varadappan released the book of refutation. Swaminatha Thambiran of Dharmapuram Math said the Math Head had, by personal correspondence with Deivanayakam, tried to put the facts straight. But he was unrelenting. Then a conference of scholars was held at Dharmapuram to which Deivanayakam was invited. Though he was present, he stood his ground. Then only, the Head of the Math decided to prepare this book of refutation and release it.

Dr. R. Nagaswami, eminent archaeologist, who had done some excavations at Santhome Church along with a Jesuit, quoted profusely from the writings of Jesuits and exploded the myth of the visit of St. Thomas to India. It was a Portuguese ruse to spread Christianity in India. He said Deivanayakam had taken the visit of St. Thomas to India as an established fact and, based on that, built his theory and conclusions. The fact was St. Thomas had not visited India at all. According to the evidence available, and books on St. Thomas, he had visited only Parthia, Dr. Nagaswami said. He said it was a sad reflection on the Institute of Tamil Studies which had published this book. It was shameful that Madras University had awarded a doctorate for this book without going into its merits.

Vidwan Ambai Sankaranar said that the award of doctorate to the author of the book must be withdrawn as the author had not adduced any evidence as to how Tiruvalluvar was a disciple of St. Thomas. Vidwan Sundara Murthi pointed out how the Tirukkural verses were misinterpreted by Deivanayakam.

T.N. Ramachandran said chronology had not at all been taken into consideration by Deivanayakam while comparing the works. Had he been a student of St. Thomas, Tiruvalluvar would have mentioned it, he said.

Vanniyar Adigal said such books were being published taking advantage of the tolerance of Hindus and the liberty and rights given in the Constitution. He said a book by a Muslim showing the superiority of Koran over Tirukkural had also been published some years back. It was time for the Hindus to take cognizance of attacks on their doctrines, beliefs and sacred books.

Eighty-five-year-old Arunai Vadivel Mudaliar, the author of the book of refutation, 4 who was honoured with a silk cloth and cash presentation, said that an attack on his faith was like an attack on his mother and that compelled him to refute the book of Deivanayakam.

1 Originally published under the title "Tamil scholars assail Christian bid to misrepresent Tiruvalluvar as St. Thomas" in the Organiser, November 7, 1991, New Delhi.

2 Dr. M. Deivanayakam and Dr. R. Arulappa have worked together on the christianization of Tiruvalluvar and the Tirukkural. In 1975 they co-authored the book Perinba Villakku in which Tiruvalluvar is represented as being Christian.

3 That this important conference of Hindu scholars was not reported in the Madras editions of The Hindu and Indian Express is very revealing of the editorial policies of these newspapers.

4 Unfortunately Mudaliar's book has not been named in this article.

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Karunanidhi hobnobbing with Christian forgers, frauds and fake researchers:

“Thomas myth” has been exposing the shameless manufacture of evidences by the spineless Christians. But what is intriguing is the association and official patronage extended to such frauds by Karunanidhi as CM and as well as littérateur. *

In January 1997, he changed the name “Parangimalai” to “Thomas malai”, however, there were no takers[7]. *

Deivanayagam[8], John Samuel[9], Moses Michael Faraday[10] and other fraudulent researchers in Siddhas and Saiva Siddhanta met Karunanidhi during 1996-2001 periods, as has been accepted by the group themselves recording in their propagandist literature[11]. Thus, the nexus is evident. *

Starting with Arulappa, the Christians have been indulging in the unscrupoulous forgery of Siddhar-literature by all means. *

V. Gnanasigamani[12] brought out his exposition “Agattiyar Gnanam” based on one forged work “Agattiyar padalgal”. *

Deivanayagam followed and of course, here there was some response and he was completely exposed and the publishers themselves declared that “It was not a researched work”!. *

Johm Samuel was cheating Muruga baktas with his “International conference on Skanda-Muruka” Private Limited, reportedly a non-profit company registered under Companies Act has turned to “Thomas fraud”. In his book, he recorded how they met Karunanidhi and all. Now even for the multi-million movie of the “greatest fraud ever made” on “dobting Thomas”, he has been declared as the “inaugurator” of the movie by the Christian crooks of forgery and criminals of history.

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[7] As the place is known as “Parangai malai”, the abode of “Parangis”, the polluted Portuguese and all other Europeans, the same name is still used.

[8] One of the collaborators with the former Archbishop Arulappa in their “Thomas fraud” and Arulappa created a Chair specifically for Deivanayagam for the promotion of “Doubdting thomas myth”.

[9] John Samuel, another “Thomas myth” promoter paraded masquerading as the organizer of “International Conference-seminar on Skanda-Muruka”. Now abandoning “Skanda-muruka”, he has engaged himself in spreading the “Thomas myth”.

[10] Hailing from Christian College, Madras and having connection with LTTE. He attended “The World Islamic Tamil Literary conference” held in Colombo in 2002. He had a special trip to north-eastern areas with local contacts. He is the author of a book on Siddhar-padalgal with his bogus research.

[11] Deivanayagam, Viviliyam Tirukkural Saiva Siddhantam, Institute for the Study of Tamil Studies, Taramani, 1985.

Moses Michael Faraday, Tamil Siddhar Padalgalum Viviliyamum, CSI Diocese Publication, 1999 with “Vazthurai” from Karunanidhi as CM of TN (letter date 22-04-1999), Anbazhagan as Education Minister (letter dated 26-04-1999).

John G. Samuel, Tamizhagam vantha Thoma, Homeland Publishers, Chennai – 600 095, 2003.

[12] V. Gnanbasigamani, Agattiyar Gnanam, “Gnanodhyam”, 66/7, Association Salai, Chennai – 600 060, 1982.

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Related posts

On the myth of St Thomas:-

http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.com/2008/07/st-thomas-myth.html

http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.com/2009/03/tamil-version-of-myth-of-st-thomas-and.html

On the history behind Kapaaleshwarar temple:-

http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.com/2008/07/restore-mylapore-sivamandiram-protect.html

http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.com/2008/07/where-is-original-kapaleeshwarar-temple.html

http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.com/2008/07/textual-evidence-on-kapaleeshwarar.html

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