Friday, December 11, 2009

Andhra splits – Saturn effect?


From the mother of follies on State reorganization on the basis of language, is now born the birth of States within States.

Andhra heads the next generation of splits.



Thinking of Indian Independence chart, I used to worry and try to figure out the kind of turmoil the moon maha dasa would bring out once it begins in September 2015.

According to PulippaaNi Jyothisha (Tamil) (Verse 181),

if the lgna lord joins the 3rd lord, Saturn and moon in a sign, then the dasa of that sign will be terrible.

In the Indian natal chart Venus, the lagna lord joins moon and Saturn in the 3rd house of Cancer.

The moon maha dasa is going to be bad for the 3rd house significances of siblings, communities and in general, the different people of this country who are supposed to live as siblings. The Andhra split adds a new dimension to the kind of rivalries that we can expect in moon dasa. Almost every state of our country can be expected to ask for a split on some pretext with the self serving politicians whipping up emotions.



Looking at Andhra scenario, the star assigned in Medhini Jyothisha for Andhra is Revathy.

Saturn is transiting the 7th from Andhra's sign, while the sign lord Jupiter is in debility and in the sign-junction right at the moment.


The current transit of Saturn in Virgo will have an effect on the areas of the South that include Tamilnadu and Srilanka also in addition to Andhra. The mundane indication is that there will be disputes and agitations in the places denoted by the sign when Saturn transits that sign. The people in those places will suffer.

It is significant to note that the crisis in Andhra had happened at a time when Uranus, the planet for revolutions and emergence of new political alignments is close to entering the mundane sign of Andhra, namely Pisces.


The worst ever crisis for Andhra will be witnessed when Jupiter transits Pisces – the star sign of Andhra.

At that time Jupiter opposes Saturn.

Analyzing the Saturn- Jupiter opposition in the last one century, we can see success to insurgencies, civil wars and armed or violent struggle to liberation attempts during those times.

This shows that Andhra is heading for a permanent split.


When the exact opposition of Saturn and Jupiter takes place on 28th March, 2011, Uranus also joins the combination along with Sun and Mars. Mars the lord of 2nd and 9th for Andhra (Pisces) has latta on Revathy (the star of Andhra) at that time. The 11th lord (for legislature) Saturn goes retrograde in the 7th at that time. These combinations foretell political problems, strained relations within the people, disputes and parting of ways between those who were together until then.

Its woes will not end but continue after that when Saturn and Rahu joins in the 8th house (Libra) for Andhra in 2013.

This is not a good time for Indian internal scenario too as this combination happens in the 4th house to Indian natal moon.



India presents a strange kind of an exploited democracy – with no leader of vision with us.

However there is one leader who can be expected to capture a 'vision' from the Andhra model.

It is our invincible Karunanidhi who can be expected to bifurcate or trifurcate Tamilnadu to crown his three aspiring off springs!



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The sky map on the day of formation of Andhra Pradesh is given below. The time of formation of Andhra Pradesh is not known.


As per Kurma charka of Varahamihira, Southeast parts of India including Andhra Pradesh come under the stars Aslesha, Maga and P.Phalguni. This is generalistic and therefore we go by the medini nakshathra assigned to Andhra Pradesh, which is Revathy. In application, this method works with other states – most importantly with Kashmir which becomes the eye of the storm very often.

So let me take the sign of Andhra as Pisces.



Till 4 o’ clock on that day moon was in Chitra in the sign Virgo.

Important observations are that 2nd lord of home and finance, Mars is in viraya in 12th in the star of janma lord Jupiter.



Jupiter is woefully in the junction of the signs having just entered Virgo into few seconds. This renders it very weak and vulnerable. It is in debility in Navamsa.


This indicates lack of will and strength in tiding over any crisis.




The 8th lord Venus is in debility at 7th which signifies interaction, inter relation etc.


Even though it has exalted in Navamsa, it has joined Ketu and opposed by an explosive combination of Rahu and Saturn.

Perverse thinking and explosive decisions come as easy to those in control of the state.



The Bhadak lord Mercury who is also marak lord is in 8th scorched by the sun.

The exchange of 7th and 8th lords is not of much help.

The 6th lord Sun who signifies Governance in mundane astrology is in debility in the 8th!!

This is bad news as far as the strength of the government is concerned.

The sun goes to the 12th to Pisces in Navamsa while the janma lord Jupiter is in debility there.



The labha (also for political climate in mundane astrology) and vyaya lord, Saturn is eyeing the 3rd and 6th from his own constellation. The current maha dasa is that of Saturn.

Saturn and Rahu spoils the 9th house of dharma and bhagya. Right from 1995, the State is going down in these two areas.

The current transit of Saturn in the star of Sun in crystallizing the above bad effects shows that our judgment of taking Pisces as the birth sign is correct.





The current vimshottahri dasa of Saturn lasts till 2013 – 14.

In Navamsa moon joins Saturn and Rahu in 7th. Saturn and Rahu are a damaging company in the 9th house of fortunes in the rasi.

The transit of long term planets also is not good at the current juncture.




My assessment is that the state is bound to lose whatever fortunes it has built.


The wealth created would go down as waste. (mars in 12th)


Anyway they will pick up after the crisis period passes away.

That is when Saturn moves out of Libra in transit.

That happens in November 2014.

That period also coincides with end of Saturn maha dasa for Andhra.

But before that time, there is likely to be violent phase and trauma when Saturn joins Rahu in Libra.


The country also will face troubles in internal peace at that time particularly in May 2014. There are bound to be natural calamities and terror strikes in mid- 2014.


As far as Andhra Pradesh is concerned the split seems to be in the card which seems to come into force in 2011. Jupiter – Saturn opposition takes place again in 2012 in 2nd and 8th houses, though the opposition is not exact. There is bound to be internal turmoil in Andhra at this time too.



However, wealth creation by the people will not be jeopardized after that.