Thursday, January 12, 2017

Rainfall 2017 - Level 4 (Daily Garbottam)

Previous articles:-
Rainfall 2017 – Level 3 (Margazhi / Solar Garbottam).

The observation of Garbottam must be done everyday for four months until lunar month of Phalguni is over. For Chennai the observation must continue till the end of June. The idea is that the Garbottam sighted on a day would result in rainfall / becomes the cause for rainfall or lack of it on the 195th day. The 195th day is not calculated in numbers but on the basis of the thithi and Paksha of the day. 

One must note the thithi and paksha of the day of observation. Eg: Observation is on Dwitheeya in the dark half of Margshira. Its resultant rainfall will be on Dwitheeya on the bright half of Jyeshta. That is 6 and a half month from the month of observation. For easy understanding of Tamil people who follow solar calendar, note the Tamil month on the day of observation; note the paksha - waxing or waning moon; note the thithi at the time of Garbottam of the day from the calendar or Panchanga. 

Example: Margazhi, waxing phase, Ekadashi thithi. Suppose there is Garbottam for half and hour and more note it down. The corresponding 195th day is Vaikashi  (6th month) waning phase, ekadashi thithi. 

If noticed in a thithi in the Bright half of moon, the result will take place on the same thithi on the dark half of moon 6 months later.

If noticed in the morning, the resultant rain will be in the evening on that day. If at noon, the rains will be at midnight. 

If winds or clouds are noticed in a direction, the resultant rain will be in the opposite direction on that day. Keeping this in mind one must record not only the features but also the direction and time of the day.

Now the features to be observed:-

Note:- Applicable on day to day basis. The prediction is for the corresponding day later, on the 195th day..

1.      Winds:-
Gentle and agreeable wind = Good rainfall
Cool breeze from North and Northeast = good rainfall.
Heavy winds = rain clouds would gather but be shattered
Dust storm = No rains

2.      Rain
In Margashira, there will be no rains. If it rains heavily, rainfall on the corresponding day would be affected. A gentle rain or drizzle would give good rainfall on the corresponding day after 6 and a half months.

3.      Lightening
Lightening = good rainfall
Rainbow in the morning or evening = good rainfall

4.      Roar of thunder
Low, rumbling roar of thunder = good rainfall
Heavy sounding thunder = rain clouds would shatter away.

5.      Clouds
Sky overcast with huge, bright, dense clouds = good rainfall
Needle shaped clouds or sword shaped clouds = good rainfall
Blood red clouds = good rainfall.


If one any day in the months from  Margashira to Phalguni, all the above 5 factors are present, the quantity of the subsequent rainfall will be 1 Drona. (Drona is equal to 200 phalas. Quantification in today's terms is not known. Perhaps the rainfall on those days can be recorded and cross checked with other days when similar conditions prevailed.)

Reduce the quantity by quarter for the absence of every one factor.

Three-some observation.
1.      Terrestrial
2.      Atmospheric
3.      Planetary.

(I) Terrestrial factors to be observed.
1.      Sweet chirpings of birds.
2.      Animals moving relaxedly and making pleasant sounds
3.      Kids making sweet sounds and playing
4.      Trees with sprouts
5.    Trees grow without diseases.

(II) Atmospheric factors to be observed.
1.      Clouds resembling pearl or silver colour
2.      Clouds in the shape of aquatic animal, huge and dense.
3.      These clouds scorched by bright sun light
4.      Gentle breeze (presence of 3 and 4 together would result in torrential rain on the 195th day)
5.      Sun and the Moon encircled by glossy, bright and thick halo.
6.      Sky filled with bulky clouds or smooth needle like clouds (cirrus), or in the shape of sword.
7.      Clouds appearing in red or blue tint.
8.      Pleasant twilights in morning and evening.
9.      Light rumbling thunder
10.  Rainbow in the lower horizon.
11.  Red glow in the horizon at dawn and sun set. This must be seen only in Margashira and Pushya months. (Solar months also)
12.  Clouds with halos

Month-wise observation

In Margashira (Margazhi):-  

·         red sun in the morning and evening, 
 -    sky in red colour before sunrise and after sunset.
·         clouds surrounded by halos,
·         very cold.

In Pushya (Thai) :-

  • ·         red sun in the morning and evening,
  • ·         clouds surrounded by halos,
  • ·          excessive snowfall.

In Magha I(Maasi): –

·         strong wind,
·         sun and moon must be dimmed by clouds or snowfall at sun rise and sun set,
·         fog, mist, excessive cold

In Phalguna (Panguni) :–

  • ·         rough and violent storms
  • ·       tawny colour of the sun,
  • ·         broken and imperfect halos around the sun and the moon,
  • ·         glossy clouds moving across the sky

The above ensure good 'conception of rainfall'.

In Chaitra and Vaishaka, sky marked by winds, clouds and halos ensure conception of rainfall which will fall 195th day afterwards. 

The following features in the 4 months from Margashira to Phalguni spoil conception of rainfall.
1.      Meteor showers.
2.      Thunderbolt
3.      Dust storm
4.      Appearance of city-like formation of clouds.
5.      Unnatural phenomenon in the atmosphere in colour of sky, clouds etc and at sun rise and sun set.
6.      Rainfall
7.      Sighting of comets
8.      Eclipses
9.      Spots in solar disc (sun spot maxima?)

(III) Planetary factors to be observed in the 4 month period.

Good for conception of rainfall
 - Planets appearing with clear and bright disc at night
-  Planets moving in Northern declination
- Moon and stars must appear white 

Planetary features marring conception of rainfall.

·         Eclipse (spoils rainfall later on the corresponding day)
·         Planetary war (where planets are close together in such a way one planet will be crossing another.) (spoils rainfall for several days in the corresponding period.)

{From last year's experience, these two factors worked in Margazhi Garbottam and not in Daily Garbottam. Anyway these are given to check the validity of these factors.}

Position of Moon during the above 4  month period.

When the above 3-some favourable features of conception are present in a day when Moon is crossing Purvashada, Uttarashada, Purva bhadrapada, Uttarabhadrapada and Rohini, the subsequent rainfall on the 195th day will be abundant.

When the above 3-some favourable features of conception are present in a day when Moon is crossing Arudra, Aslesha, Magha , Swati and Satabhishak, the subsequent rains will go on for many days. On the contrary, if the 3 some factors are spoiled, there will be dryness.

If Moon crosses all the above mentioned stars with 3-some factors being present and marring factors being absent in Margashira - would give rainfall for 8 days later (after 195 days).

In Pushya - for 6 days
In Magha -16 days
In Phalguni – 24 days
In Chaitra – 20 days
In Vaishaka – 3 days.


harinee said...

Madam I got a forward on WTO deal which will kill the PDS system in India.Will you able to do a post on same? There is no clarity on it but pretty scary if imported rice is allowed in and PDS is kiiled.

Jayasree Saranathan said...

Dear Ms Harinee,

I have no idea on this deal. We will wait and see.

sriramlion said...

Madam..You would have known that this week tamilnadu got widespread rains.I heard in delta it spoiled some of the crops too..What may be reason for this rains.can yu see any significant planetary combination

Jayasree Saranathan said...

Dear Mr Sriramlion,

I thought of writing a separate post on this and that was delayed due to my pre-occupations. Whether I do it or not, let me explain here the causes for the rainfall on the last few days particularly on 25th and 26th Janaury and on some days prior to that.

You will find that these rains exactly followed the garbottam principle. The previous corresponding dates for 25th and 26th Jan are 17th and 18th July 2016. 25th and 27th Jan are waning Trayodashi and Chthurdasgi in Thai. The corresponding days 6- 1/2 months ago are waxing Trayodashi and Cahthurdashi in Aadi. If you remember we had cloudy days and isoltaed rains on those days.

You can check my blog for Rainfall in July 2016 here -

There you read the material under the caption "update on 18th July" On 16th and 17th July a system came into shape in the Bay favouring east coast.

I had written there
>> In my place of observation there were mild drizzles on 16th and 17th night. On 17th night the rainfall was moderate accompanied with thunder.

My place of observation is in south chennai. Cloudiness, drizzles and thunder are good combination of garbottam. It didn't rain heavily in my place at that time. Heavy rains means garbottam spoiled. But drizzles do help in rainfall on realisation dates.

Where it had drizzled accompanied with garbottam clouds on those dates, there it had rained now.

Last year's observation showed that planetary combinations must be supportive of the rainfall on the relaisation dates. Though the planets are not conducive for rainfall at the moment, on those days it rained (25th and 26th Jan) Venus was crossing over to the next sign which is a watery sign (Pisces). Last year we saw that whenever Venus and Mercury cross over to the next sign or cross Ketu and Rahu, there would be a trigger to rainfall. Even now it had happened. The support from a good garbottam on corresponding dates in July, had helped in giving rainfall when Venus was about to enter the next sign. This time we had another rainfall supportive yoga of one planet rising and another planet setting. This coupling existed between Venus and Jupiter around this time.

However,(1) Mars in the front of all planets and Venus too, (2)Venus coming in opposition to Jupiter and (3) Mars in opposition to Jupiter in the subsequent dates, spoil any more rainfall. The destructive nature of the rainfall may also be due to this reason.


Jayasree Saranathan said...

In my place of observation, the rains did not materilaise but went off as drizzles on 26th night (Jan) after 10-30 PM and at predawn on 28th Jan.

The corresponding dates of Garbottam realisation for these dates are 6th and 7th August 2017. I will be checking whether it rains on these dates. If it rains, that would be a strong proof for Garbottam principle.

I am all the more excited to note that these dates are found to get rainfall in Margazhi garbottam 2017. Please check my blog

The 4th day of Margazhi garbottam showed that there would be rainfall between 5th and 8th August 2017.

In that chart the next rainfall period comes between 18th to 21st Sep 2017. The corresponding dates are May 8th to 10th of 2017. We can expect moderate rainfall / drizzle and cloudy weather on those dates (for Chennai).

In the immediate context, I think we can expect some weak rains after March 7th 2017. The corresponding dates are 25th August 2016 onwards when it rained in scattered way in Chennai and suburbs. Refer my article for August 2016

The interesting feature is that these dates correspond to March 7th 2017 onwards. On March 7th 2017, Mercury - Venus closeness begins. So depending on the nature of rainfall (drizzle or heavy) in the last week of August 2016, places in and around Chennai are likely to receive rainfall in the week after 7th March 2017. Let us wait and see.

Finally, all this shows that garbottam watching must be a daily observation throughout the year.

sriramlion said...

Thank yu maam for your explanation..

sriramlion said...

Predicting unseasonal rains is difficult.Rains in march is a rare phenomenon.if it really happens then it will be a strong proof for your study i thnk..

Jayasree Saranathan said...

This year Venus and Mercury move towards each other right from March 4th. From March 7th onwards, the gap between them is fast reducing. Therefore we can expect rainfall - pre-monsoon showers -during this short period of closeness which lasts till 25th March. In my blog on planetary combinations ( first 5 points refer to the probable rainfall during this period which is likely to benefit parts of north India.

However, the garbottam records of Chennai shows that there can be rains in parts of Chennai in the few days that start from 7th March.

Mercury - Venus closeness is also seen associated with snowfall / highly cold conditions in the US. The earlier closeness ended on 29th December 2016 and it saw colder conditions in the US. Now most of the US is warm. But there is likely to be a brief return to sub zero conditions during the upcoming closeness that start on March 7th. It looks odd but possible as per this principle. Anyway if it happens that is proof of this closeness principle.

sriramlion said...

Is the mercury venus closeness itself ll bring rains? Or it depends on the sign( fiery or watery) where it is placed..bcos i have just analayzed an extreme event when chennai recorded maximium temperature of 45c which is the all time high for chennai.At that time mercury venus is in aries sign..Is this closeness will bring hot weather too?

sriramlion said...

Am an amateur and pl bare with me if my question is wrong/silly

Jayasree Saranathan said...

Mr Sriram,

No, its not a silly question. Venus is for wetness and Mercury is for winds. When they join, they are supposed to create conditions conducive for rain bearing clouds that are supported by favorable winds of Mercury. It is because of this, Mercury - Venus closeness is supposed to cause what is known as "Bahu varsham" (plentiful rainfall) in astrology. When the gap between them is getting reduced as they travel in the sky, we call it as the period of Bahu varsham.

The closeness mostly happens when they turn in their orbit as seen from the earth. For example, this March, the turning of Venus in its orbit makes it appear move backwards (retrogression). At the same time Mercury is still in forward motion. So these two appear to move towards each other as seen from the earth. When this closing happens, it casts some effect on the atmosphere of earth which further causes changes conducive for rainfall. Scientific tests in these lines might prove this contention of rainfall astrology.

While moving towards each other, or even while overtaking each other from behind, one of them may seem to cross the other as seen from the earth. At that point, we can find some trigger events happening meteorologically. This can happen in any sign, but when it happens in rainy season, we can expect a meteorological event. In winter it can cause blizzards or heavy fog as it is applicable to a place.

You have mentioned about Mercury- Venus presence in Aries. But did you check whether the gap between them was reducing or increasing at that time? You can check this in any astrology software by checking every alternate date during their stay in Aries. The increasing gap between them and other anavrishti yogas could affect pre-monsoon showers when Sun is in Aries. However their stay together in Aries has no connection to increased temperature.

The increased temperature is due to sun's movement in Aries. Aries is a fiery sign and identical with fiery stars such as Bharani and Krittika (agni nakshatra star). When these 2 planets are there in Aries, Sun can not be far behind them, but in all probability present in Aries. So sun's presence in Aries could have caused the heat.

Usually solar flares are more when Sun and Mars are in the signs of fiery planets / in their own signs (Aries, Scorpio and Leo). You can check my articles on that by searching this blog. It is not Mercury and Venus but sun and Mars that are associated with hot conditions. This year Mars being in the lead till July, the summer can be expected to be exceptionally hot and dry.

sriramlion said...

Well explained..Thank yu maam for replying to my questions patiently..

Jayasree Saranathan said...

@ Mr Sriram,

For heat, there is no specific astrological yoga, but for rainfall there are yogas (combinations) which are to be present to aid in the realisation of garbottam. Venus and Mercury are always connected with rainfall going by the term "Bahu varsham" related to their closeness. In summer months when Sun is transiting Aries and Taurus and in Agni nakshatra days (of Bharani and Krittika) there would be excess heat. If Mars joins sun in Aries there is likely to be solar flares. This happens despite Venus- Mercury closeness. Suppose Venus- Mecrury closeness happens favourably during that time without the presence of any spoiling yoga, rain materialises in those hot days.

In the date you mentioned (31st May, 2003), Venus and Mercury are close to each other but actually they had started moving apart from 19th May 2003 onwards. I would like to know whether any precipitation was there before 19th May in Chennai or in any part of west coast. Such rains would be based on daily garbottam in those places that was witnessed six and a half months before.

In the given date (31st May 2003) Venus and Mercury are in the east of Sun and in fiery sign which is not conducive for rainfall. Though Jupiter is in a watery sign, it had moved out of Pushya (Jala nadi in Sapta nadi chakra) and is in direct opposition to Mars. These two factors spoil rainfall, though Venus and Mercury are in close conjunction.

You may check my article on rainfall supportive and spoiling yogas in this link
We have to check the possibility of spoilers too in judging a rainfall yoga.

In the coming month of March 2017, though closeness of Venus and Mercury begins on 7th March, by 10th / 11th March both Mercury are going to be in Pisces from which Jupiter is going to be in opposing sign. This is a spoiling yoga. We must see whether this works - rainfall stopping after 10th / 11th March. If so we can be sure that Jupiter in opposition spoils rainfall. On 31st May 2003, Jupiter in opposition to Mars was a rainfall spoiling yoga. It is doubtful whether SWM started on time in that year.

Jayasree Saranathan said...

The yogas for famine and drought in the presence of rainfall deficient yogas in summer months might give rise to extreme heat. We can check this in high temperature months. For example Saturn transiting in Aries, Taurus and Gemini usually gives rise to famine like conditions. Sun in Rohini gives hot winds. In the period you gave (31st May 2003) the following factors were present. (1) Saturn in Gemini (2) Sun in Rohini (3) Venus and Mercury in the eastern sky and in fiery sign (4) Jupiter - Mars opposition.

Thus we could see all the planets in famine / dryness causing positions. Perhaps this can be interpreted with high temperatures in summer months. Such combinations in winter months could mean highest temperature for those winter months. If you can get data of such hot months / dates, we can check and make sure that such combinations do contribute to excess heat conditions. I will check this heat feature in the monthly rainfall check for the upcoming months this year. But if possible get me a link to the max temp dates of past years for checking.

During Dec 2015 floods, the major contributing feature was sun, mars and saturn in alternating signs in the rainy season. Jupiter in Purva phalguni is a excess rainfall yoga. No planet was in spoiling mode at that time. This contributed to continuous rainfall in Karthigai month (Nov- Dec) that resulted in floods ultimately.

Last year (2016)such a yoga did not last for more than 2 days and there were also present spoiling yogas. In 2017 too, spoiling yogas are continuously present till 1st week of Dec.

Jayasree Saranathan said...

sriramlion said...

For dec 2015,sun and saturn commbination in watery sign is also important i thnk so Though i may be wrong.bcos there is difference btn plentiful rains and floods..floods are destructive..whenever destruction comes most of the times there ll be saturn involved..just my inference..

As yu said,I ll try to get the data for max temperatures

Jayasree Saranathan said...

On watery signs, these planets may be seen transiting watery signs (Cancer, scorpio and Pisces) on many days in a year, but not always accompanied with rains. There is some more specifics added to this. For example, when sun, mars and saturn are in watery signs, it rains heavily when venus and mercury are conjunct in fixed signs. When Venus and Mercury are in same navamsa or in watery navamsa, then also rains are assured. Moon in watery navamsa also gives rains.

But copious rains or flood causing rains are possible in 2 distinct combinations. (1) when sun, mars and Saturn are in alternating signs, whatever may be the nature of the sign - watery or fixed - when moon transits in kona houses to them or in conjunction with one of them in a watery sign, it rains heavily on those dates. One can check this during Dec rains of 2015 in chennai. This is possible when no spoiling yogas are present. The Laila storm of 2010 also had this combination.

During Varda cyclone on 12th Dec 2016, one can see Sun conjunct with sat, with Moon in opposition. But just prior to that Mars was in alternate sign with them. Once Mars moved out to the next sign, the amount of rainfall came down.

One can see such heavy rains (above 20 cm in a day) when these three planets (Sun, Mars and Sat) in kona houses to each other preferably in 1-5 houses (once again alternating signs)and moon transiting kona houses to one of them or in opposition and in rain related stars such as Purvashada, Uthrashada, Satabhishak, Purva bhadrapada, Uttrabhadrapada, Rohini, Arudra, Aslesha etc. I checked this in many instances in and around Mumbai. The location is inferred from the signs and stars transited by 2 of the 3 planets (sun, Mars and Sat)that get related with moon.

(2) When all planets are in front of the sun or behind the sun then also torrential rains occur for many days causing floods. 2011 was a year of floods and the SWM season started with almost all planets behind the Sun with no spoiler around. As the season progressed, sun, mars and sat came into alternating signs giving floods again. All through these one can see rainfall support combinations working their way in tandem. (In contrast, in the 2016, many spoilers were at work. Such a situation continues in 2017 also.)

In June 2011 Kerala and Orissa witnessed floods when all planets were behind the sun.
In July- August 2011 when these 3 planets were alternate signs, floods occurred in Bihar, UP, Assam, Orissa, W.Bengal and Gujarat.

There is one more feature contributing to floods. If it rains at one one place during conjunction of Amavasya and Prathamai or Pournami and prathamai - or in other words, if it rains in Amavasya or Pournami and continues till the next thithi, namely prathamai, it would rain for the whole paksha (15 days thereafter). Suppose flooding combinations as discussed above occurs during that time or after that times, torrential rains would continue giving rise to floods.

As far as I know these are the flood related combinations.

Thanks for your offer of getting data on max temperature.

Jayasree Saranathan said...

Today (26th Feb 2017) saw cloudy skies in Chennai throughout forenoon that extended for a couple of hours in the afternoon. This is a good case for daily garbottam. Though the sky appeared overcast all around, the movement of clouds is from east and south east. There was cool breeze too. This day had conjunction of Sun and Moon with Ketu. Such a combination on the garbottam day indicates rainfall from cyclone or rainfall accompanied with thunderbolts. But the direction is East and SE. This shows that rainfall will be from West and North west. This is possible at that time of the year in Chennai through heat bands (Veppa chalanam) accompanied with thunderbolts.

This day is Amavasaya in the month of Masi. The rainfall realisation day must be Pournami 6 months away. That comes on 5th - 6th September 2017 in Aavani. 6th September is an important day of yajur upakarma (Aavani avittam). That is Pournami day. But the garbootam that happened at day time today must give rainfall at night time of Pournami in Aavani. Since Pournami in Avani in 2017 ends at mid noon on 6th Sep, we have look at the night time date of Pournami. Pournami starts from the noon of 5th Sep and ends on noon of 6th Sep 2017. Therefore rainfall for today's garbottam can be expected on the night of 5th September 2017.

There is no spoiling planetary yoga on that date. So there is likely to be widespread rainfall on the night of 5th Sep in Chennai.

Now comparing with Solar garbottam, it does not show any rainfall for the period in which 5th Sep falls. But the next period starting from 13th Sep shows rainfall. We have to see if the current cloudy weather continues in the coming days. If so that shows a possibility of some system forming in the Bay or wind / cloud movement over Chennai.

On planetary side, from August 27th, Venus- Mercury closeness begins and continues till 8th October. This would bring rainfall in East, SE and central India. Check

sriramlion said...

Scorpio - extremes, really wet/dry or hot/cold, con/destructive; oppressive; this sign intensifies the action of the rest of the chart. Never fails to bring an extreme.

The above text i found in a blog.i have inferred that with sun and saturn as natural malefics.They ll give extreme weather.Though ur point is correct as sun and saturn combination will occur every year untill saturn transits to next sign.

Thanks for clarifying my doubts maam..

Jayasree Saranathan said...

Any interpretation must be based on all factors (sign, planets and stars) and not on signs alone. Moreover there is difference in interpretation between individual horoscopy and mundane horoscopy. For example, conjunction of Mars with Venus causes fires in mundane interpretation. The numerous instances of fire that we are hearing nowadays can be attributed to Venus - Mars conjunction in Pisces. But the same conjunction in individual horoscope may mean attraction between partners in life. The same combination occurring in dusthanas indicate trouble in marital relationship. Thus the same planets give different results in mundane and individual horoscopes.

As such conjunction of Saturn with Sun actually foretells death to a powerful ruler. This can be noticed in the death of Jayalalithaa and Indira Gandhi. Their deaths caused immense vacuum, uncertainty and widespread mourning. You will note that the conjunction of saturn and sun did not happen in scorpio for both. In Indira's case the conjunction happened in Libra where Sun becomes debilitated.

In mundane astrology, even a benefic can give bad result. For example presently the accelerated retrogression of Jupiter can be related to the political disturbances in TN. I have explained it in the comment section of my blog

In rainfall astrology, we can see a clear grouping of planets as inner planets and outer planets. Venus and Mercury are inner planets and Mars and Saturn are outer planets. The close congregation of inner planets with the Sun triggers rainfall. But near closeness of the outer planets in the backdrop of the sun causes rainfall.

When the outer planets (Mars and Saturn) are within 60 to 90 degrees away from sun as seen from the earth it causes some changes in climatic / meteorological conditions that ultimately gives rise to heavy downpour. Similarly when Mercury and Venus are one behind the other as seen from the earth it causes some changes in the atmosphere that triggers rainfall. When earth falls in line with these two planets then rainfall is better ensured. Thus planetary positions more in relation to earth's position and in the backdrop of the Sun cause conditions favorable for rainfall.

On the other hand when Saturn and Mars (outer planets)are behind us (earth) while we are facing the sun, rainfall features of the atmosphere are spoiled. In all these, rather than the signs, it is the location of these planets with reference to our position determines the nature of rainfall.

Scorpio always comes under scanner mainly because that is the peak NEM month.

sriramlion said...

Thank yu maam.About next week rains,most of the weather models showing rains for south tn and delta..As per models,only minimal chance of rains for chennai..yu have said garbattom supports rainfall for chennai on march 7th..lets wait and see..

Jayasree Saranathan said...

Mr Sriram, posted my article on March rainfall scenario. Read