Wednesday, May 17, 2017

3. Tamil kings who went to the Himalayas.

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The historical information contained in Tamil Sangam texts and even the later day texts like Silappadhikaram and the devotional verses developed during Bhakthi movement synchronize well with each other. They give better leads to get the correct interpretation of the epigraphic findings and other sources.

For example, the presently available oldest inscription on Sri Parthasarathy temple near Marina beach in Triplicane, Chennai is dated at 8th century CE during the reign of a Pallava king, Danthi Varman. This gives the information that Pallavas had taken care of this temple. The history of the temple constructed on the basis of inscriptions point to a beginning with the Pallavas in the 8th century and patronised by other kingdoms later.

But a verse by one of the Azhwars, by name Thirumangai Azhwar says that this place was developed by Thennan (olden name for Olden Pandyans) and Thondai rulers. (1) There is no mention of the patronage by Pallava rulers by this Azhwar in any of the 10 verses on this temple.

Similarly in another verse, sung in praise of the Lord at Ashtabujakaram in Kancheepuram, he invokes the name of Thondai king as one who worshiped the deity here. (2). But there are other verses on other temples in which he specifically mentions Pallavan kings as having patronised or worshiped those deities. All these temples are in the same region of Kancheepuram or what was earlier known as Thondai naadu.

Chronologically Thondai rulers were earlier to Pallavas. A Thondai ruler by name Ilamthirayan was sung in one of the Sangam texts called Perum PaaNaRRUp padai. Sometime in the early centuries of the Common Era, the Thondai rule was usurped by the Pallavas in the Kancheepuram region.

Parthasarathy temple and Ashtabuja karam temple must have been patronised by Thondai rulers is what is understood from the Azhwar’s references. A discovery to prove this was unexpectedly made in the 1980s when workers were digging the ground within the Parthasarathy temple complex for renovation work. They recovered a silver statue of a king with folded hands with the name “Thondaimaan” inscribed on it. That this was buried under the temple complex shows that Pallavas who renovated or built the temple made sure that no traces of connection with the earlier Thondai rulers existed.

This discovery proves the authenticity of historical information that the Azhwar had given.
Before the Pallavas, the Thondai rulers had patronised Parthasarathy temple. Even before them, this temple was patronised by Thennan  Pandyan who built the city of Mylapore. The Azhawar gives this information on Mylapore in his verse. Thus we find the literary references to be authentic and therefore reliable.

Three instances will be discussed here to drive home the point that Tamil literature of yore had been helpful in putting together the missing pieces in archaeological, epigraphic or cross referenced inputs from other texts and other parts of India. The first instance deals with the expeditions made by the Tamil Kings to the Himalayas.

Reference to expedition to Himalayas.

The more recent history of a Tamil king having made an expedition to the Himalayas is that of Cheran King Seguttuvan. He wanted to build a temple for Kannagi who lived during his times. From Silappadhikaram we come to know that the images of Gods were made from the rocks cut out from Pothigai hills and bathed in river Cauvery before carving out the image. (3) Kannagi’s life and impact was extraordinary that it was decided that her image must be carved out from the rock taken from the Himalayan Mountain and bathed in the Ganges. It remains a big mystery from which part of the Himalayas the rock was procured.

Senguttuvan was not the only king to have gone to the Himalayas. The kings of all the three dynasties of Tamil kingdoms (Chera, Chola and Pandyas) had gone to the Himalayas in times before Senguttuvan. They did not make simple visits but had gone with huge armies accompanying them. Anyone who opposed them was vanquished and who accepted their supremacy was spared. They reached some part of the Himalayan Mountain and engraved the emblems of their dynasties as a kind of ‘Tilak” on the forehead of the Himalayas.

Two questions arise from this information. One is the location in the long range of the Himalayan Mountain where they engraved their emblems. Is it the same location or did they go to different locations? Whatever it could be, what was the rationale behind choosing a specific location? These questions further lead us to wonder what actually made them go the Himalayan Mountain all the way from their kingdoms.

The second question is why there is no reference to these Tamil kings and their expeditions in any north Indian records.

The search into Tamil texts to find answers for these questions does give us some leads which bring out many hidden events and ideas of past history of India. Before proceeding to answer these questions let us see a brief note on the kings who went to the Himalayas to engrave their emblems.

Tamil kings who engraved their emblems on the Himalayas.

Cheran King.

A Cheran king by name Nedum Cheralaadhan got a title “Imaya Varamban” meaning “Himalayas as the boundary” owing to his expedition to the Himalayas where he carved out the image of his emblem the “Bow” (4) 

The Sangam verse on this king compares him with Akrura of Mahabharata times. The verse describes Akrura as a courageous one in having gone as an emissary to the Kauravas. The verse says that this Cheran king was like Akrura in his courage and also in charity. (5)
This information on Akrura as an emissary is found in Srimad Bhagavatam when he was asked by Krishna and Balarama to go to Hastinapur to gather information on the mood of the Kauravas. (6)

Akrura with Krishna and Balarama, Gopi Nath Temple

One might tend to dismiss the comparison with Akrura as a poetic way of tribute to the king. But why the poet chose Akrura of all the people is a matter worthy of analysis. Even Krishna himself had gone as an emissary on behalf of the Pandavas. The poet could have as well compared the king with the more popular Krishna if glorification was his sole aim. That he didn’t do so gives the impression that there was some parallel between Akrura and the Cheran king in some way. The comparison with Akrura in particular gives a hint on a similar mission that this king might have undertaken in the past which is not known to us.

The other reference to Akrura as a charitable one in this Sangam poem is also true as we find a reference to him as a charitable one – ‘dAna patE’- in Bhagavatam. (7)

In Tamil encyclopedia by name “Choodamani Nigandu”, Akrura is mentioned as the first among the 2nd set of seven Philanthropists (idai ezhu vallal - இடை ஏழு வள்ளல்). The Sangam text making the comparison with Akrura for his philanthropy and also courage in entering the enemy’s den as an emissary is indicative of similar events and traits in this Cheran king. This also shows that the story of Akrura was popular in Tamil lands and people had chosen to view their king in the likeness of Akrura.

Another interesting connection with Akrura comes in the context when he was addressed by Kamsa as the Master of Charity (dAna pati). Kamsa conducted a Bow Sacrifice (Dhanur yaga) for which he wanted Akrura to invite Krishna and Balarama. {In that conversation Kamsa addressed Akrura as the Master of Charity.}(8)  

Krishna breaking the Bow at Bow- Sacrifice

Bow is the royal emblem of the Cheran dynasty. More than anybody else from any part of Bharat, the Cheran king was the right candidate to have conducted a Yaaga for Bow. But a sacrifice for bow was done by the Bhojas in Mathura who were basically known for expertise in wrestling.

It raises some questions like whether the Cherans were originally connected with Bow sacrifice.
Did Kamsa invite the Cheran king of that time for the Bow-sacrifice?

Did the Cheran kings get acquaintance with Akrura on that occasion of the Bow sacrifice?

Cheran kingdom had existed during the times of Kamsa as there is reference to Cheran army in Mahabharata as having taken part in Kurukshetra war.

There is also a verse in Sangam texts on a Cheran king who offered food for the armies of both sides in Kurukshetra war. In fact the Cheran king under discussion in these passages had come in the lineage of that king who served food in the Kurukshetra war!

Another information on this king with some history hidden behind, pertains to the description of a garland he was wearing. The same verse that compares him with Akrura says that the king was wearing a garland made from the gold of the crowns of 7 kings defeated by him. The names of the 7 kings are not known. Perhaps some future discovery of a coin or inscription might give their names. 

At that time, these sources written in Sangam Tamil would help us understand the connections!

All the above details on the Cheran king indicate one thing – that he was skilled and charitable as Akrura and invincible in war. He crossed many countries on the way to the Himalayas. He would have made an impact throughout his path either by fear or friendship. This expedition could have given scope for Tamil people (his army men) to mingle with the people of different regions. Some of his army men could have stayed back or brought people back to Cheran land by marriage or friendship. Thus the probability of mixing among people from Tamil lands with those in other parts of Bharat till the Himalayan ranges had existed during expeditions such as these.

Cholan King.

Among the Cholan kings, a king by name Karikaal Cholan went to the Himalayas to engrave the “tiger” emblem of his dynasty on the side of the mountain. This king was credited with having built the Grand Anicut across the river Cauvery in Trichy.

A Sangam verse on him sung on his death says how this king followed Vedic life by doing yajnas, one among them done on the Eagle shaped homa kunda.(9)

There exists a verse on this king in the inscriptions of the copper plates unearthed in Thiruvalangadu on how he got his name as Karikaala / Kalikaala. This is contrary to the popular belief that this king got the name Karikaal owing to a fire accident in which his legs were affected and turned black. But the reason given in the inscription is more appropriate.

The title as Kari- kaalan is understandable from the many victories he scored. He subdued both Pandyan and Cheran kings and many other kings of smaller regions. This king had no enemies on the west or south of his territory. (His country was on the east with his capital at Poompuhar in the eastern shore.) So he wanted to go to the north to check whether there was anyone in the north to challenge his supremacy. And his sojourn kept going endlessly in the north with no one to stop him until he was stopped by the Himalayas. This made him hit the mountain by chiselling out the emblem of his dynasty. This is poet’s description of the expedition to Himalayas (10)

But in reality, he did plan to go to the Himalayas to carve out his emblem as expression of his success. This is known from later day texts on him which say that he went to Kancheepuram to get an instrument called “Chendu” with which he could cut the rocks.

{The hidden history in this is that the first ever stone-cutters in Tamilnadu came from Kancheepuram or Thondai region. Stone inscriptions appeared in Tamilnadu thanks to these stone cutters. Their first contribution is the construction of Grand Anicut across Cauvery which they did in return for Karikaalan having spared them from his wrath. (Details later).  Pallavas were their patrons and it is possible that they took their skill to as far as Angkor Wat under the influence of Pallavas.}

Silappadhikaram gives information on the kings he met on his way and the tributes he received from them. This list consists of the king of Vajra country near river Son, king of Magadha and of Avanti kings. It is apparent that these kings either wanted to avoid war with Karikaala or were in good friendship with him. Somewhere in North India and in North Indian chronicles, Karikaalan might have left a trace of his trail. As of now, the Tamil texts stand as the only source to cross check and look for more info where it does not seem to exist.

Another important feature of Karikaalan’s expedition is the description of the architectural value of the gifts given by the three kings mentioned above. Their architecture was traced to none other than Mayan who built the Indraprastha for Pandavas. That once again opens up another window into the historicity of Mahabharata and Mayan whom Arjuna saved from forest fire in return for which Mayan built him the palace at Indraprastha. (11)

Pandyan King.

The name of the Pandiyan king who went to the Himalayas has not been mentioned openly in any of the texts. But many texts do speak of this expedition of the Pandyan king. This king engraved not only his own emblem (fish), but also chiselled out the emblems of Cholas and Cheras on both sides of the fish. A verse to this effect is found in Silappadhikaram. (12)

The same information is found in the copper plate inscriptions of the Pandyans discovered in a place called Sinanmanur. They say that a Pandyan king engraved all the three symbols on the Himalayas.

Though the name of this Pandyan king is not outwardly mentioned in any text, we are able to zero in on the name from Periyaazhwar’s verses on Vishnu.


In two places Periyazhwar speaks about a Pandyan king, one of which mentions the place in the Himalayan range where he engraved his emblem. 

It is
parupapdatthu kayal porittha pandiyar kula pathy”  (Periahwar thirumoazhi 5-4-7)
{பருப்பதத்துக் கயல் பொறித்த பாண்டியர் குலபதி}

This line indicates the place as “Paruppatham” in the Himalayan range.

The 2nd verse mentions the name of a king as KOn Nedumaaran.

“Konnavil koor vEl kOn nedumaran (Periahwar thirumoazhi 4-2-7 )
{கொன்னவில் கூர்வேல் கோன் நெடு மாறன் }

Scholars think that this king was the contemporary of Periyazhwar. But the cross reference from another Tamil text called “Paandi-k-kovai” establishes that this king belonged to the olden location, and it was he who engraved the Pandyan emblem on the Himalayas.

The verse in which the above line by Periyazhwar appears narrates a victory of the king which was attributed to none other than Lord Vishnu. The same narration is found in Pandi-k-kovai thereby establishing that Periyazhwar was indeed making a reference to this king of an olden time.

A puzzling feature in the 10 verses of Periyazhwar in which this appears is that he speaks about Thirumalirum Cholai (popularly known as Azhagar malai situated near Madurai) of the South!. 

Wherever the Pandyans had settled there they had established an abode for their patron couple, Meenakshi- Sundareswara and also for Vishnu who had helped them. When those abodes were lost in waters, they created them again in the places where they settled. That is how there exists the possibility of a Then- Thirumalirum Cholai (Thirumalirum Cholai of the South) which the Azhwar praises in 10 verses. The olden Pandyan Kon Nedumaran was connected with THAT southern Thirumalirum Cholai. 

Today’s Meenakshi temple and Azhagar temple of Madurai are the recent versions of the sunken temples in what was known as Kumari-k-kadal (Kumari ocean) which was the original name for Indian Ocean.

Further details on Paruppadam in the Himalayas, its present name and KOn Nedumaram will be discussed in the next article.

(To be continued)


 1. Periya Thirumozhi – 2-3 -10
தென்னன் தொண்டையர்கோன் செய்த நன் மயிலை திருவல்லிக்கேணி 

2. Periya Thirumozhi – 2-8- 10
மன்னவன் தொண்டையர் கோன் வணங்கும்  

3. Silappadhikaram:- Chapter 25 – lines 116 to 125

4. Padhitrup patthu:- 2nd group of 10 poems.

5. Padhitrup patthu:- Verse 14.
போர் தலை மிகுந்த வீரைம் பதின்மரோடு 
துப்புத் துறை போக்கிய துணிவுடை ஆண்மை 
அக்குரன்  அனைய கை வண்மையைய 

6. Srimad Bhagavatam – 10-49

7. Srimad Bhagavatam – 10- 36-28

8. Srimad Bhagavatam – 10-36

9. Purananuru - 224

10. Silappadhikaram:- Chapter 5- lines 93 to 98

11.  Silappadhikaram:- Chapter 5 – lines 94 to 110.

12.  Silappadhikaram:- Chapter 17 – lines 1& 2
கயலெழுதிய இமய நெற்றியின் 
அயலெழுதிய புலியும் வில்லும் 


Vainateya said...

Who is called scholar in above you mentioned(scholar thinks periyalwar contemporary to this king)historians or vedantic scholars ?

Jayasree Saranathan said...

@ Vainateya

//Who is called scholar in above you mentioned(scholar thinks periyalwar contemporary to this king)//

Vedveer Arya.

Check out my arguments in tweeter with him. He thinks that Kon Nedumaran and Sri Vallabhan are the same and contemporaneous to Periyazhwar.

Vainateya said...

Kadungkon nedumaran or kon nedumaran which was correct . According to you who was the first king that ruled pandiya kingdom at then madurai.

Jayasree Saranathan said...


Kadungkon and Kon Nedumaran refers to the same person who was the last king of 1st sangam age. He engraved the three emblems on the Himalayas.

Urga Kumara aka Muruga was the first king of 1st Sangam. As per Tiruvilaiyadal puranam, the Pandyan dynasty started from him. Nakkeeranar gives the name of the 1st king of 1st sangam as ‘Kaaiccina Vazhudhi’ which is Tamil translation of Urga kumara.

Vainateya said...

Thank you for your kind reply always.
Madam Iam asking who established pandiya dynasty like cholavarman decendent of sibi that established chola dynasty.malayadwaja and his son in law sundara pandiya also was king if it is how ugra kumara became first king? Please clarify

Jayasree Saranathan said...


Hope you are following my videos on Indic Past where I am deciphering the time period of Muruga / Skanda. His time was pre-historic, 12k years ago, during Younger Dryas in South East Asian region. Vaivasvata Manu was not yet born then. Only after him came cholas. So Muruga’s is far back in time when dynastic ideas had not yet set in. Only he set up the dynastic culture. From him started Pandyan dynasty says Tiruvilaiyadal puranam. Even the concept of Shiva was not yet born then. When the Southern Madurai escaped from a sea rise, the concept of Shiva as guardian deity of pandyans emerged according to this puranam.

So what we say in hindsight as this or that pandyan was there giving birth to Tadathagai piratti are later versions for our understanding.

Check out the link to my videos in the side bar of my blog.

Vainateya said...

What you saying is that soma sundara pandiya and malayadwaja was just like leader of tamil community but not like king but his son ugra pandiya was crowned king thus started pandya dynasty.Is that correct?

Jayasree Saranathan said...


Only Malayadwaja, father of Meenakshi / Tadadhakai piratti. That name is generic and used for for posterity by those written in posterity. Since You seem to be aware of vaishnavism, let me quote from 6000 padi guru parampara prabhavam. There will be reference to Gangaikonda Cholapuram in accounts of Alwars who lived before Rajendra I who built that city. This means the reference to the city was to reveal the location familiar to the people of the time when the text was written. Same is the case with not just the name and dynasty of Meenakshi but with several other issues. So we have to apply our sense of discrimination while dealing subjects like this.

Soma Sundara was from Kailash region. Paternally Skanda inherited the genes from Kailash region. His gene-spread out ofIndia will be discussed by me in the video series on Indic past.

Vainateya said...

Thank you but sundara pandya was called iraiyanar and was ruling before first sangam .Is he was king or he was guardian diety so he was called king?.
Adi kulesekara pandya was first king what I read on internet even before ugra kumara pandya.I can't understand in this one.

Jayasree Saranathan said...

@ Vainateya

Better start watching my Indic past series.
Plus read Tiruvilaiyadal puranam and Madurai kalambakam
Then ask questions

Vainateya said...

Is vibhisana still alive today .What happened to him and his people.meditating somewhere after start of kali yuga.?

Vainateya said...

Where can I read thiruvilaiyadal puranam and madurai kalambagam on your blog.

Jayasree Saranathan said...


Available online

Vainateya said...

Have a nice day madam.I have read thiruvilayadal puranam stating that then madurai was formed by destroying kadamaba forest as per instructions of siva to kulesekara pandiya who was ruling mavavur so manavur was capital of pandiya before then madurai was formed and after Madurai became capital
Maladwaja was born and then sundara pandya (siva) and ugra pandya ruled during his reign first sangam started.So there was three kings of pandiya dynasty .You told ugra pandya started pandiya dynasty.

Jayasree Saranathan said...


Very good. Find out the verse that states Pandya dynasty started from Urga kumara.
Also find out if Manavur was there before Southern Madurai was ‘ formed’.

Vainateya said...
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Jayasree Saranathan said...


If Kanthimathi is his wife what about Devyani and Valli. isn’t Devyani first wife of Muruga / Urga kumara.

Vainateya said...

Karthi mathi may be avatar of Valli or devayani like ugra kumara avatar of muruga and please clarify about manavur and madurai is they are same?

Jayasree Saranathan said...

@ Vainateya

Why ‘May be an avatar’. Why not written openly? If Kanthimathi was the wife, is the marriage with Devayanai false? How can that be false when we have all temples of Muruga with consorts showing Devayanai as the wife? And Mahabharata stating that he married Devasena?

Where does Manavur come, in Indian mainland or near sunken Southern Madurai?

Wasn’t Manavur the place where pandyans set up their capital after 2nd sangam was lost and before they shifted to current Madurai?

Doesn’t that mean the poet has thoroughly mixed up events and facts without bothering about chronology or sequence??

Is it not the same with malayadwaja being put even before the dynasty was born? A Kulasekara was put even before a community took shape?

Vainateya said...

Madam Iam not telling marriage of muruga with devasena was false but I don't know that karthi mathi was verses are not in order it is mixed with events .Please yourself give me the chronological order.

Vainateya said...

Hello madam I read rajendra chola daughter ammana devi married rajaraja narendra chalukya who in turn was the son of vilamaditya and kudavai daughter of rajaraja chola so ancestors from ammanga and narendra are kulitthunga I
To rajendra III what I asking was they are Telugu origin or Tamil origin?

Vainateya said...

Pallavas came from cholas or they are separate?

Vainateya said...

What is your opinion about orisa balu?

Unknown said...

Why pandyan king engraved both tiger of cholas and bow of cheras along with fish emblem of pandyans? Are they have a common ancestor???

Jayasree Saranathan said...

No common ancestor. The pandyan king’s control / command over the other two is indicated here.