Sunday, December 11, 2016

Travails of Jayalalithaa in life and in death – a Karmic angle.

This is a blog I never wanted to write.  

I never wanted to write an obituary for her, nor ever wanted to put in writing what I have thought to be her past karma that tossed her into a roller coaster kind of journey in her just ended life.


Never in recorded and memorable history have we come across a ruler very much loved by the masses, emotionally connecting with her as Amma and never have we seen the same ruler very much abused in as many ways as possible by opponents and their brain-washed followers. Such abuses continue even after her death by floating conspiracy theories on every aspect related to her illness and death.

If these conspiracy theories are to be believed, then it means the entire medical fraternity from London Beale to Chennai Apollo to Delhi AIIMS to Singapore physiotherapists have played a big conspiracy on Jayalalithaa!

Her life was an open book, but she was supposed to be secretive in her ways – an impression that continues even in her death.

She has been very frank and vociferous to the extent of admitting a live-in- relationship with a Telugu actor whom she wanted to marry, but the world always connected her with her mentor, MGR. They called her in every possible way – a seductress and a lesbian too. One of her haters, RM Veerappan went to the extent of calling her as a temptress and even telling that she provoked enmity between MGR and Karunanidhi so that she could spend more time with him! But the fact was that she was thrust into film world and then into politics much against her wishes and inherent nature.

When she inherited the party from MGR, she had to inherit his enemies too, particularly Karunanidhi, mainly because she happened to be where MGR was once. No one in a civilised country would have faced the kind of abuses, harassments and name calling that Jayalalithaa suffered in the hands of Karunanidhi and his followers. The kind of negative propaganda spread by them once led her to take a terrible vow – it was terrible because it came from a woman and that too from a person who ruled the glamour world of cinema. It was a vow that she would never wear any jewels until she came out clean from the court cases foisted on her by Karunanidhi. This kind of vow can only be taken by a genuine person who has earned them in rightful ways.


But the sad part of it is that till her death, this case (DA case) was not solved – or rather was not allowed to be solved. At every stage in the cases and also in her administrative decisions, Karunanidhi had thrown spanner in some form with the result that Tamilnadu today is in the lead among all States in the number of cases against the Government actions / rulings.

Coming to her vow on wearing jewels, it was a big surprise to see Jayalalithaa’s body draped in a silk sari and bangles and chain in her body. It was really heart warming to see her make the last journey in those jewels and in a silk sari.


I have read what it would do karmically to a person who has obstructed someone to eat food or drink water. Obstructing a woman to wear her dresses and jewels is something odd. No one judge except perhaps Kumaraswamy who acquitted her in the DA case thought it was odd for someone to spend on buying saris using money through corruption, while it was everyone’s knowledge that her long innings in film field enabled her to acquire all those fancy saris. I am wondering what fate would befall those who steeped to this level to confiscate her saris. Would they ever get atleast a torn piece of cloth to cover their bodies in their next birth?

While the last image of Jayalalithaa draped in silk sari and jewels made me think that her ‘udan piravaa sister’ Sasikala did something right, but the way the final rites were done contrary to the family tradition of Jayalalithaa came as a shock. Having lived a pious life and even wearing Iyengar tilak always, Jayalalithaa would have definitely wanted cremation as per her custom. Why was that not done and who took the decision for burial? All fingers point to none other than Sasikala.


 If Sasikala is a true friend should she not have given her cremation as per Jayalalithaa’s family tradition? Coming to think of it why were all her relatives, expelled by Jayalalithaa allowed to be near her body? They could never come near Jayalalithaa when she was alive. Only Sasikala could get back to Jayalalithaa’s house but that was after she gave an undertaking that she would never be in touch with any of her family members and that she would never aspire for a place in politics, party and in governance. Her letter was displayed in Jaya TV at that time after which Jayalalithaa accepted Sasikala into her household.

If Sasikala had been true to her promise, she would not have allowed any of the expelled members of her family to be near her body. More importantly her husband who was very much banished by Jayalalithaa could not have come near her body if Sasikala had kept up her promise. It is a crass breach of trust by Sasikala.




This breach of trust could become a boon for the conspiracy theorists of her illness and death. These conspiracy theorists won’t accept any explanation or logic except one idea that Sasikala conspired to kill Jayalalithaa. It is not for love of Jayalalithaa they are viciously and vigorously spreading this rumour. All they want to prove is that Sasikala called the shots and that Jayalalithaa was a mere puppet in her hands till her death.

It is sad that even Jayalalithaa admirers feel like buying this theory. Their apprehensions are not without basis, for, to the shock and dismay of all, the entire Sasikala clan who were expelled by Jayalalithaa a few years ago, were seen surrounding the body of Jayalalithaa.

Though there were ups and downs in her relationship with her, Jayalalithaa made sure or thought that she knew where to keep her. But alas, that was not to be so. That sister who promised not to have any truck with others whom Jayalalithaa had thrown out earlier was back with a bang with them, the moment Jayalalithaa was gone. The further happenings also show that Jayalalithaa remained unaware of her designs and was cheated till end. The one whom she embraced as sister, at the cost of losing her own brother and other relatives, was the cause of everything that damaged her life and name.

This is the most shocking of all incidences that happened in Jayalalithaa’s life. A person known for her intelligence and capabilities of sorts, the idea that she had trusted a person all her life without knowing that she had an agenda in her mind makes me wonder what blinded her vision.

I used to be amazed by the kind of Moksha combinations in her horoscope thinking that she would complete her birth as Jayalalithaa with a fulfilled feeling and satisfaction. But no, the developments known after her death make think that she has some unfulfilled issues.

This thought propels me to think whether it was Jayalalithaa’s Prarabdha karma that made her stick to this person unsuspectingly till the end. Not just one but there are five issues that have karmic connection to Jayalalithaa’s past.

Of them (1) Getting cheated by one (till her death) whom she trusted  and (2) the continuous bombardment of whatever she did by a ruthless opponent supported by a sold-out media are spent karma now.

But (1) Not getting the last rites as per the Kula smapradaya of her birth,

(2) Her departure without clearing her name in DA case and

(3) Her feeling of despondency that she could not live a normal life of a girl with normal aspirations on education, family and kids are in the pending list.

Though the first one (not getting the last rites as per her tradition), is also due to a Prarabdha karma, it is a different issue if she had wanted it to be so. But in the absence of any information on her wish on how she wanted her last rites to be performed, it should have been taken for granted that she must be cremated. It happened so with Mahatma Gandhi, Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi. That it was not done so is something that would linger on and would have to happen in the normal way for her in a future birth. This is so since she is known for her piety, respect for tradition and enormous work she has done for the upkeep of temples and tradition. She is even comparable with Ahilya Bai of Indore who was known for renovation of temples and care for the poor and needy.

Ahilya Bai

Taking a look at the Moksha combinations in her horoscope, she has her 12th lord Venus exalted in Pisces, the zodiacal 12th house. Venus also goes into the 12th house to Karakamsa lagna, in the Navamsa. Incidentally, the Karakamsa lord Saturn (Atma karaka) occupies the 12th house in the Navamsa. Saturn is also the lord of the 12th house from Venus (12th lord) in the Rasi.
Jupiter, the lord of the zodiacal 12th House has exchanged its star dispositor with Ketu, the Gyana karaka. Ketu which is in the star of Jupiter occupies the house of Venus, which happens to be the 12th lord.

With these combinations, her thinking came to be tinged with equanimity and compassion as years progressed and particularly once Jupiter Dasa started. Compassion to all beings, both animate and inanimate and a mind not disturbed by pleasure and pain (sthitha pragya) are the hall marks of one rising towards Moksha. Jayalalithaa exhibited these traits and was a picture of composure and satisfied mind after she won the recent elections. She had no other karma to be done than serving the people who reposed immense faith in her – which she herself expressed after the results were out.


Disease is part of shedding Prarabdha karma and I think she braved it with calmness of mind. Her end came at a time which did show a trigger effect in the Heavens (horoscope).


Her dasa  lord (Jupiter – Baadhaka and Maraka) and Bhukthi lord (Saturn – Maraka and Ashtama lord) were aspecting the 6th lord of disease (Mars) posited in the natal 8th house in exact degrees of coupling at the time she suffered cardiac arrest. At that time her Moon joined Mars and Venus (22nd Drekkana lord) in the natal 8th house only to be in the exact degrees (13 degrees) with Rahu (13 degrees) in 6-8 axis. Mars (6L) and Saturn (8L) which have exchanged houses in transit were aspecting Rahu in the house that signifies heart.

Therefore there was no foul play in her death and in the news that she died of cardiac arrest.
But further developments that led to the revelation that she was perhaps cheated by one whom she trusted and the fact that she was not given a religious cremation as per her tradition (since she deserved to be a moksha stuff) makes me think that though they are part of her Prarabdha karma, she would get in her next birth what she couldn’t get in this birth.


Before going further into her life as related to her previous karma and as causative for her travails, let me give a brief on Prarabdha karma and how it can be manipulated.

Everyone’s life is hugely a product of Prarabdha karma and to some extent Sanchita Karma. Sanchita Karma is the total karma that has been accumulated until the present birth while Prarabdha Karma refers to those deeds whose effects have begun or are going to manifest definitely in the present birth. Prarabdha Karma is part of Sanchita Karma and part of Sanchita Karma can be manifest in the present life through Purushartha or human effort.

Prarabdha karma can be further divided into 3 parts –“‘Dridha’, ‘Dridhadridh’ and ‘Adridha’.  ‘Dridha’ means that which is fixed or that which is firmly established or which cannot be bent or cannot be altered. ‘Adridha’ means ‘not firm’ or ‘not decided’.  ‘Dridhadridh’ means both dridha and adridha combined. It is not exactly fixed or not fixed. That means it is liable for changes. Those karmas or past deeds whose results are not exactly formed come under this category. They can be influenced or changed by strong will and determined actions. The last two types namely Adridha and Dridhadridh are subject matter of remedies. They can be altered by appropriate propitiation / remedies assisted by Purushartha (Human effort) and Samskaras. The following schematic diagram explains this.


The Kriyamana Karmas are those which are done by a native during present birth. Part of it is controlled by Prarabdha or fate and part is in the area of free-will of the native. In this limited area alone one enjoys freedom of action as represented by the 10th house. It is here that one can make or mar one’s destiny. The best course is to enjoy / suffer Prarabdha willingly and do good deeds or charities in the area of free-will.

Looking at Jayalalithaa’s life, this is what she had done – undergo Prarabdha karma and manipulate the changeable part of it.  She herself remarked once that she was controlled by fate and nothing in her life was as she wished. But that did not stop her doing what is required in any given situation. She did them with equanimity – like ‘come whatever may, this is what I have to do here.’ This is exactly as per “Karmani eva adhikaraste, maa phaleshu....” (Gita 2-47) As time progressed she learned to face brickbats and bouquets with equanimity. 

Her 10th house being Pisces owned by Jupiter, the lord of Dharma, her conscience propelled her to go after Dharmic ways. The laws against conversion and animal sacrifice are something unimaginable for anyone to enact in the present day India. But she did them because she possessed enough conviction on Dharma. Had she succeeded in ban on animal sacrifice, she would have been hailed as a Buddha of the current era, but her Prarabdha karma did not allow her all that. Instead it brought her disrepute and loss of votes.

Though the 10th lord Jupiter endowed her with Dharmic sense, it being a Baadhaka and subject to Kendra- Adipatya dosha, Jupiter played havoc in her life in its significances. Looking at her life, one can see that  Jupiter related features have played a role mostly negatively.

Her birth itself was on a day that is celebrated for Maha Maham and Mahamaham is determined by the location of Jupiter in the zodiac. Her sacred bath on a Maha Maham brought her disrepute when many people died on a stampede. Though that was not due to her, critics made it an offence done by her.

She had a powerful mentor (Guru) in her life in MGR without whom she would not have come to politics. She herself has said that her life was controlled by MGR during her film career and later in politics. From him she inherited his enemy Karunanidhi and an agenda to keep him away from power. In nearly a quarter century of political war with him, she suffered a lot due to machinations by Karunanidhi and his media men, but managed to reclaim TN from the so-called Dravida Maaya. 

Bhakthi flourished under her inspiration. It appears that her Prarabdha- induced suffering in that war was intertwined with Tamilnadu’s destiny. From what she was described as an arrogant despot, she came to be adored as a benevolent leader by a majority. This transformation is certainly a long march from a bad Prarabdha to a reduced baggage of karma due to her sufferings in this birth.

She was influenced by Kanchi Acharya and she almost treated him like a Raja Guru, but she found herself in a place where she had to initiate criminal action against him. This wiped off any support from her own community and from the faithful.


It was in her tenure that a worst tragedy of fire accident in a school happened that killed many children. School is related to Guru.

The two persons who went against her by court cases that almost ruined her bore the name related to Guru. One was Subramanian Swamy. Swamy is a reverential name to Guru. Another was Acharya. Acharya also refers to Guru. The wrath of these two Gurus wrecked her many a times.

At last she was convicted and lodged in a jail in a place called Parapanna Agrahara. This seems to be a corrupt form of Prapanna agrahara. This refers to a former location of a group of Prapannas (those who have surrendered to God for Moksha) who had lived there. Now a jail had come up in that location. A probe into the origins of this place might perhaps throw some interesting history of why this agrahara came to house a jail. And that history might have a connection with Jayalalithaa in her previous birth.

A life where Guru was inimically disposed to her, had found her waterloo in a place once occupied by Guru like people. So what was the offence done to Guru?

These correlations connect with other dots in her life, prominent being the adoption of a well grown man, under the influence of Sasikala whom she trusted till her end. It is normal to expect a childless to adopt a child. In most cases, the children of near and dear would be adopted by the childless one. But strangely enough, Jayalalithaa discarded her only close relatives born to her brother and went on to adopt a grown up man, a relative of Sasikala and even did a grand wedding for him. That was the singular event that brought her grave disrepute and downfall. That wedding was part of the accusations in the DA case that was unsettled till her death. The important part of it is that she was blind enough to be influenced by someone whom she considered as sister!


Was Jayalalithaa that foolish to believe her? But her decision to adopt a well grown one at the behest of that sister shows that the Prarabdha karma of Jayalalithaa blinded her vision. If Jayalalithaa wanted someone to call her as Mother, she could have adopted a child left in the cradle of her scheme. Or she could have adopted her niece or nephew. But such an intelligent woman that Jayalalithaa is, that she behaved like a puppet in the hands of one whom she trusted as a sister, only goes to show what a strong Prarabdha could do to one. The influence of Sasikala in making her go for that adoption is strong proof of the hidden agenda of Sasikala which has reared its ugly face now after Jayalalithaa is gone.

Jayalalithaa has had some obsession with the identity as Mother. That must have come inherent in her birth due to some Prarabdha karma. She adored her mother very much, but her mother made her do what she didn’t want to – that of acting in films. That mother was not there with her right from childhood whenever she needed her. And when that mother left her, Jayalalithaa was like a fish that had fallen on land. Her travails started because she had none to fulfil the role of her mother. That is what propelled her to blindly depend on someone whose cheating became known to the world without doubt only on Jayalalithaa’s dead body.

All the above events in her life had connection to some event of her past life.

In the end, all that she yearned for is an acceptance as a Mother. What she thought that she would get from an adopted son, she got from the masses.

AMMA is the ultimate honour that she earned upon spending out the Prarabdha karma.

In her previous birth something  that she did for the sake of her son, a la kaikeyi like thing, which impelled her to do many things that invited the wrath of the Gurus or Brahmins who were ultimately curtailed by her, had given what she underwent in this life. Beyond this I don’t want to connect these dots into a life in the past, but leaving it to readers to develop it according to their understanding.
In the backdrop of all these in her previous birth, she must have remained with a hidden agenda as a friend to someone important in those events. Till the end in that birth, she must have managed to conceal her mind from that someone and got her agenda done. A replicating karma of that is what she underwent in the birth as Jayalalithaa!

In this life as Jayalalithaa, Kala Purusha had found a greater utility  in her to influence the lives of many and also the nation. This can become possible only is she had done greater good to a nation in the past inspite of all the karmic issues detailed above. In her past birth, she might have even ruled a country somewhere in nearby Karnataka where she had her genesis and also nemesis in the birth as Jayalalithaa. The events done in the course of that life that affected some Gurus / Raja Guru / and his Guru kul, found a replication in the next birth. That is why she could get a strong band of people who loved her blindly and emotionally and also a band of people who blindly hated her.

With all that she must have realised her mistakes soon in that birth and repented for them and even done lot of propitiatory works. That gave her some elbow room to manipulate the adridha and dridhadridh part of her Prarabdha karma.

The wrath of Guru and a personal desire to favour a son (la kaikeyi) – both combined made her do things that formed the foundation of the Prarabdha karma in her birth as Jayalalithaa. Her innate nature must have been spiritually inclined, otherwise she could not have developed the equanimous tendency after her tryst with the marriage of the adopted son.

Certainly she would not have liked to leave without getting her name cleared in the apex court. The denial of proper final rites is another issue. More than all these, her desire for a normal life of a homely girl is something that must heavily weighing in her mind. With the kind of Moksha related features in her horoscope as Jayalalithaa and the equanimity and complacency she has attained in this birth, she is likely to make one more birth in a Divya Desa like Srirangam, in the family of a pious archaga devoted to the service of God, she is likely to lead a calm and quiet life enjoying all round happiness of family and friends – TRUE friends.


While I wanted to end this article here, new thoughts and correlations cropped up in my mind when I heard that Cho Ramasamy’s health deteriorated at the moment her cremation was done and he passed away within hours after that.  

Cho and Jayalalithaa were known to each other right from their younger age though they hailed from different places. They shared a good rapport and friendship despite all odds right from their younger days. Cho had always been a kind of inner voice or a cautioning voice for her. But he dealt her a grave blow after her first tenure when all that was wrong with her happened. This had a premonitory beginning in the first ever stage appearance of Jayalalithaa. That was when both Jayalalithaa were acting in the stage play of YGP as a couple. In that play Jayalalithaa was killed by Cho who acted as her husband.

Jayalalithaa suffered similar kind of blow after her first tenure and lost elections.  Cho had a major role in giving her that blow. That blow was so severe that all her Prarabdha related sufferings started only from that blow and culminated in her conviction in the DA case. Though Jayalalithaa was upset with Cho for having worked against her, contrary to her nature, she mended ways with him soon after that. From then onwards their friendship and understanding had continued till her death. It is no secret that Cho also had a soft corner for her and wished for her well being.


Now when Cho is gone, it looks he too shared an agenda with Jayalalithaa in stalling the common enemy Karunanidhi. He had played a hand in glove role (without even knowing that it looks so in hindsight) with Jayalalithaa and made sure that Jayalalithaa succeeded in her political agenda. It looks now that he had worked as shadow conscience of Jayalalithaa.


His departure following Jayalalithaa’s demise seems to follow a script of having accomplished a common karma. This shows that they could have had a connection in the previous birth which might even go over to their next birth.

The underlying truth is that Kala Purusha is a wonderful script writer and only those who can read his mind might perhaps escape from his plays!

Ending with somewhat a calm mind I wish AMMA a wonderful time in the Higher realms that she would be in by now


My hearty kisses to you, dear AMMA!


Post script:-

The developments in AIADMK post Jayalalithaa's exit look shocking and horrifying. If Jayalalithaa and Cho had been conversing in the other world about what these selfish people are doing, I think it would be something like the film in which they acted.



Updated on 20, Dec, 2016.


63 comments:

Sujatha K said...

Very insightful article ma'm. It is so sad that a person as intelligent as JJ blindly believed Sasikala while she kept her only blood relations far from her. The party now seems to go into Sasikala's hands and this does not bode well for Tamilnadu. The sight of all ministers and MLAs falling at Sasikala's feet is so grotesque. I hope as you said Modi is watching this keenly and will do everything to put people where they belong to

Hillranger said...

2 things. Amma was relieved of ignominy from the final inevitable SC order by reason of her death. She WAS guilty in the DA case. Pryaschitham will not negate the mistakes committed during 1991-96.

Second, I agree Amma surely did not wish to be buried in the manner it was done by Sasi & Co.When her brother died in 1995, she ensures that all Iyengar rites were performed fully.

Last but not the least, we need not get unduly upset and emotional about who will grab power now. Makkal theerpu Mahesan theerpu. Let's wait for the drama to unfold and read people's verdict. Modi or BJP cannot decide who will be in power in TN. Nor can the erstwhile caretaker lady! Await people's verdict. A new order will arise.

jayasree said...

சசிகலா உள்ளிட்டவர்களை கட்சியிலிருந்து நீக்கிய 11 நாட்களில், டிசம்பர் 30, 2011 ல் சென்னையை அடுத்த வானகரத்தில் அஇஅதிமுக பொதுக் குழு நடந்தது. அதில் பேசிய அப்போதய அமைச்சர் கே.பி. முனுசாமி, 'அம்மா பிடித்து வைத்தால் பிள்ளையார், வீசியெறிந்தால் சாணி' என்று பேசினார். ஆனால் அந்தப் பொதுக் குழுவில் ஜெயலலிதா பேசியதுதான் முக்கியமானது ...

"தவறு செய்து, துரோகம் புரிந்து கட்சியை விட்டு நீக்கப்பட்ட பின்பும், அந்தக் கட்சியை சேர்ந்தவர்களை விடாப்பிடியாக தொடர்பு கொண்டு, நாங்கள் மீண்டும் உள்ளே சென்று விடுவோம். நாங்கள் மீண்டும் செல்வாக்குடன் இருப்போம். இப்போது எங்களை பகைத்துக் கொண்டால் நாளை நாங்கள் மீண்டும் உள்ளே சென்ற பிறகு உங்களை பழி வாங்கி விடுவோம். ஆகவே எங்களை பகைத்துக் கொள்ள வேண்டாம் என்று சொல்லுபவர்களும் உண்டு. அப்படி தலைமை மீது சந்தேகம் வருகின்ற அளவுக்கு பேசுபவர்களுக்கு மன்னிப்பே கிடையாது. அதுமட்டுமல்ல அத்தகையவர்களின் பேச்சை கேட்டு நம்பி அதன்படி செயல்படுகின்ற கட்சி காரர்களுக்கும் மன்னிப்பே கிடையாது!'' -

இதுதான் ஜெயலலிதாவின் டிசம்பர் 30, 2011 பேச்சு ... 2011 டிசம்பரில் கட்சியிலிருந்து தூக்கியெறியப் பட்ட சசிகலா 2016 டிசம்பரில் அஇஅதிமுக வை கபளீகரம் செய்து கொண்டிருக்கிறார்.

Read more at: http://tamil.oneindia.com/news/tamilnadu/admk-bylaw-couldn-t-allow-sasikala-become-as-gen-sec-269526.html

Nandha said...

Nice article on JJ which has touched some karmic angles in JJ life. Generally the 6th, 8th and 12th lords should not be powerful and I used to wonder about the exalted nature of virayathipathi venus (which happens to be her 5th lord also), how it gave great wealth for her but did not think about the moksha angle.

One small correction that I noticed in your article is

Incidentally, the Karakamsa lord Saturn (Atma karaka) occupies the 12th house in the Navamsa.

For February 24, 1948, 2:48 pm birth time, the navamsa lagna happens to be Aries with retrograde mars and Jupiter and Atmakaraka Saturn occupies Aquarius which is 11th from the navamsa lagna and not 12th house as u have mentioned.

The dasa bhukthi lord in 6-8 axis will not give beneficial results and this has been proved yet again. When we raised our worry in one of the comments section in previous articles, u gave hope that in case of JJ it is Dharma-karmadhipadhi lords dasa- bhukthi which would never take life and coupled with your belief in palmistry, we believed that she will come out of the hospital setback, but unfortunately it has taken a toll on her.

Contrary to the official death time of 11.30 p.m. December 5, the correct death time must be 4.30 to 7 30 pm. on December 4, 2016. There is high probability that death happened in Rahu kalam on Sunday. Actually Ethartha jothidar Shelvi gave warning in Dhanthi TV 2 months back in September itself when she was first hospitalized and only he rightly pointed out that December 5, 6 and 7 are more crucial and he even said after 7.38 a.m. on December 7, she will be fine. I do not know how he was very particular (I wish madam to watch that video in youtube and give ur opinion regarding this). The period is Jupiter-saturn-rahu. He even gave remedial measures. In all means the attack would have come in the duration of rahukalam of 4.30 pm. to 6 p.m on Sunday and after that they have begun life saving measures of CPR which failed and finally ECMO. So we need to take this time only as the next day whole day she was in life-assisted measures.

Nandha said...

Continued......

One of the comments pointed out regarding punya chakra and I would like to share my views on the same. Punya Chakra is the chart constructed at the time of death based on the placement of planets at the time of death. The houses that needed to consider for interpretation of state of soul at time of death is lagna, 7th house, 8th house and 10th house. The sum total of pavam/punya can be found out in 8th house of punya chart in which if benefic planets are situated in 8th house, the person has done abundant punya and no sins. If mixed planets (benefics as well as malefics) then mixed results. If 8th house has only malefic planets, then the persons leaves the wold with paava mootai.

In JJ case , we are not sure exact time. Since Rahu happens to be the culprit, the probability of death happening between 4.30 p.m.and 6.30 pm is high but punya chakra constructed at 4.30 pm. on December 4, 2016 throws a chart with Aries lagna whereas 5.30 and 6.30 has rishaba lagna. So unless the correct time of attack is known, it is difficult to say.

I do support the fact that there no foul play on part of Sasika in death related matters. Though she has political ambitions, she always wanted to control party and always wished for passive governance so that all sorts of looting can be done secretly. She wanted JJ to silence critics and opposition. Also like JJ, she too believed in astrology and I think someone would have advised her to make JJ stay for some more days in hospital and that is why she was hesitant to move JJ to her house. Here again it is JJ's wish not to disclose her photo when she was in dire situations, Remember she did not want to meet anyone when she is in prison. Tamil la sollanumna Getthu koraiya koodathunnu sollirukkalam. She did not want people to see her weakened image. Once a photo is leaked, then whenever she faced any adverse situations all newspaper will carry the undesirable weak image of her. That is the main reason of the hospital authorities not disclosing her photo during her stay.

Coming to Kula sambradhaya burial, I think it might be JJ's wish. She would have casually told to Sasikala long ago that similar to MGR she would like Samadhi in marina. Though she was a practicing vaishanavite Brahmin, in many meetings she said I am above all religions, so it might be her wish.

Regarding DA case, all knew Kunha is right. It is not false case at all. Till 1991 she was showing income around 2 crores only and suddenly 66 crores by calculation by IT it is Disappropriate to the known source of income. Actually it was sasikala who went on buying spree during that tenure and as u said JJ was very blind and she believed in Sasikala, thereby she too is party to sasikala's wish. The near zero decimation of DMK in 1991 election made JJ believe that DMK will not come to power and it was greed of Sasikala and JJ too. Recollect that Rahu dasa started in 1994 for her. Gangai Amaran, balu jewellers, etc might be having more stories to tell.

I do remember reading somewhere that sasikala's rasi is meenam(pisces) not sure. If it is so, it is 8th rasi from JJ's simham. Both rasi's in sashta-ashtagam. Hope we can get sasikala's horoscope in coming days.

Anyway we have lost a great leader, a source of inspiration for many. Yaanaikkum adi sarukkum. This proverb comes to my mind now as JJ slipped in all matters concerning Sasikala..Let us wait and watch.

Now itself all party men started to voice for Sasikala to become general secretary and let us see how it happens. If JJ is convicted in DA case, then these two also will go to prison and properties of JJ will be confiscated. For this madam only need to tell by shedding light on D-4 of JJ.

jayasree said...

Thanks Mr Nandha for sharing your views

# Jayalalithaa's birth time i have is 2-34 PM. For that time the Navamsa lagna is Pisces. Saturn (AK) is in 12th to that.

# The 6-8 axis of dasa -Bhukthi lords do play an adverse role but not always. There are many horoscopes to show this - an example being my own. My saturn in Makara lagna has Rahu in 8th house. My marriage took place in Saturn dasa- Rahu Bhukthi. (At that time saturn and Jupiter were in 8th house from Moon sign). The reason could be that in Bhava chart Sat- Rahu came to 9-5 axis. JJ had saturn moved to Simha in Bhava making it 9-5 axis. This changed position of saturn in Bhava caused Bandhana yoga (jail) for JJ which she did suffer. Moreover the exception rules for Mithuna for Dharma karmadhipathi is also there. My teachers used to tell us to take Bhava for final prediction. Bhava or Rasi, which must be weighed is an exam question in Masters degree. In my thesis on oral cancer, I took up this factor and found Bhava as indicative of the disease even when it is not seen in Rasi.

# Palmistry is highly dependable for the moment. In hindsight I think the pics of JJ's palm that I have are old and I don't have very recent ones. Though her left hand did show health line reaching to life line around 60+ years, her right hand shows no such feature. She being a right handed person, this looked dependable. However she must have developed descending line in her life line recently.

# I don't buy this Rahu kala stuff. Originally Rahu kala means it would obstruct the significance of the day's lord. For example marriage talks in Rahu kala in Friday would be affect the marriage talks. It is on this basis only, it is said, that even though Rahu kala may be there, if the hora of the day is running at that time one can do the work related to that hora lord. I think I have touched upon this topic in an old blog on Hanuman crossing waters to reach Lanka.

# Thanks for the details on Punya Chakra.

# I dont think JJ had ever said anything on her last rites. If she had said, these people would have used it to justify the last rites as they did now.

# I don't think that JJ amassed wealth through corrupt means while in power and used it to expand wealth. Lot of black money is there in film field even now. Film people are the worst affected in the current demonetization move. Till now no leading actor is getting his salary in full white. Even MGR was said to have stuffed huge cash in his house which he used to donate to poor and to whom he wanted. When JJ became CM for the first time, her acting career was over just a few years before that. She must have possessed lot of back money that was given as part of salary for her acting. That was used for buying in her first tenure. Everyone in film field and political field knows this. Before that JJ had once donated then and there all the jewels she was wearing during a war period. This was mentioned by a communist MLA in the Assembly in her last tenure. So I wont accept this theory that made money through corrupt ways. That part of it was never proved in the DA case.

# Now that JJ is dead, her name would be deleted / abated and no more verdict would be given. But looking at her horoscope, from the 4th house, her 9th lord is Venus which is exalted in the 7th house to the 4th house. Her ancestral property and ornaments would be returned I think. In most of the other properties, it is all partnership I think. It depends on sasikala's fate too.

I consider the DA case conviction as a prarabdha related destiny. If one were to suffer like JJ for the DA case, then almost all the politicians, film personalities and business people of India must suffer - most of them more than her.

# I suspect someone's hand in Cunha judgement. I can't write it at the moment.

jayasree said...

Added a post script at the end of the above article.

Sridhar said...

Dear Jayashree madam, hope you are doing well. I am an avid reader and follower of your blog. Never in my wildest dreams, I expected this. I am yet to come to terms with the demise of Amma

However life moves on

I have following observations / comments

Whenever there is DOB, there is DOD

In Amma's case, for Mithuna lagna, the marakathibathi is Jupiter (7th Lord as well as the planet in 7th house)
Saturn who decides the longevity and who gives the boarding pass is in second house and second marakathibathi. So death has happened in Guru dasa Sani Bhukthi
Amma being a very stanch believer of astrology, should have been informed about this so that she could have planned succession, final rites etc. much better

My experience about Apollo is very bad. My father in law was admitted in unconscious state and stayed there for 145 days. Yes 145 days
I have seen the entire drama first hand

I am 1000% sure Amma NEVER regained consciousness. All treatment given was for an unconscious patient. There are so many striking similarities to my father in law. Treatment abroad should have been the first option. However sister had other ideas and succeeded as well. Now we are mute winess to the drama

Can you do analysis of planetary positions on September 22 when Amma was admitted to Apollo. Technically she was dead that day itself

Sridhar said...

a nice article madam.#
expect your prediction on sasiakala's horoscope and how our Tamilnadu will be in 2017.

Hillranger said...

Pls read Cunhas judgement in full to know the facts of the case. Our support for Amma should not make us become subjective in our assessment. She was guilty. Saturn is planet of justice. Anybody pronounced guilty or incarcerated during this period or sub period is surely guilty of a wrong doing. Amma has herself admitted of this implicitly in her interview with Simi Garewal when she said, "yes, one does tend to be swept of ones feet in the trappings of power. It needs experience to remain grounded.....Sasi helps ground me..."

I fully agree with the author that Dasa and bhukti lords in sashtashtakam need not produce unfavourable results. Mercury and Venus in 8th from Dasa lord brings about favourable results provided they are benefics. My mercury is in the 8th to my moon from mesh rasi for a kanya lagna. My moon merc period was the best in my life in terms of wealth and happiness.

Kalaivani said...

Hi jaya mam,

Thanks so much for writing this post.
Really believe that AMMA's soul will be very blissful in current astral place or future births, though in reality it is very sad reading some of the trials she had to undergo. But I feel proud she showed the strength of a lady. At last even her opponents too sang her praise.

Just to highlight to you that in your blog, in MAY itself a prediction has been given about this event.

Link in the following post comment : http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.sg/2011/04/will-karunanidhi-come-back-astrological_12.html

May 9, 2016 at 11:24 AM

Kudanthaiamudhan said...
JJ horoscope has Guru dasa- saturn bhukti running currently. Guru lord of 7th and 10th kendradipathyia dosha in the constellation of Ketu is in its own sign danushu exactly in 7th place from the mituna lagna. Bhukti lord saturn is in 8th place from jupiter in sashtangam placed at 2nd sign of maraka- kataga . saturn is in the constellation of lagna lord mercury. Saturn owns 8th and 9th signs with two faces of being a maraka and also as giver of luck and fortune. She has now guru-saturn bukthi -second half which is up to april 2017. Now in gochara jupiter is coming to 2nd ( not so good but not bad) saturn is in 4th sign in gochara. She suffered imprisonment during the first half of saturn besides having health problems. Now the second half of saturn will give the results of 9th the giver of luck. But both dasa-bukthi are in 6/8 angle is adverse to her now.Both lords are not beneficiaries.
In the natal horoscope of jj, she has four planets in rahu and ketu constellation- sun in rahu,mars,jupiter and moon are all in ketu stars. This indicates no family for her and her inclination towards the spiritualism. The powerful saturn in lagna star mercury in 2nd sign indicates her devotion to the people and poorer section and not for her herself and family . However winning this election for both JJ and MK is going to be a rude shock and surprise for everyone. Astrologically whoever wins and comes to power either JJ or MK, they can not stick to power beyond mid 2017 and big changes await later. it could be anything from hung assembly or related to the longevity of government or to its leader whoever or whatever it could be. Early/mid 2017 or even before this year end, many changes in political sphere of tamil nadu will take place.



Really wish that people of tamilnadu have good options to vote and exercise their right in selecting a good party. Tamil people are very gratitude even for small deeds, and deserved to be ruled in an efficient way. ENOUGH Of being brainwashed by cinema drama and tamil flowery languages. Need more educated , honest people to be running for elections.

Raghuraman said...

Dear Madam,

One thing i want to highlight is whenever Guru was in cancer, Jaya was ruling and we saw setbacks. First one was Mahamaham tragedy, second was Kumbakonam fire accident and 3rd time she lost the final case (rest all cases she won) and went to jail and she returned totally demoralized and health affected.

jayasree said...

@ Mr Sridhar, Ms Kalaivani and Mr Raghuram.

It is easy to say that Jayalalithaa died because of 6-8 axis of Saturn – Jupiter or that they are marakas or Badhaka. These features come in many horoscopes and they have crossed without death / mishap. That is where we look for other features. Even in Jayalalithaa’s horoscope, within the broad period of Jup- dasa- Sat Bhukthi – Rahu antharam, illness occurred on a specific date and death occurred on a specific date. They are the trigger points of transit planets with reference to natal positions.

Mars, Jupiter and Sun are inauspicious for Mithuna lagna. When Mars entered the natal degrees of Jupiter in transit she fell ill (22nd Sep 2016). The next trigger came within the same dasa-bhukthi- antharam period as shown in the above article. Without these triggers being present, the maraka effect would not take place.

Importance of triggers can be noticed in the past sufferings of JJ as Mr Raghuraman has written in a comment below. He has written that whenever Jupiter was in cancer, she had suffered. On analysis you will find that Saturn was in Mrithyu bhaga in JJ’s natal horoscope in cancer (25 degrees). Whenever Jupiter (not Saturn as Saturn is auspicious for Mithuna by the rule that it must not be in Kendra/ kona connection with Jupiter as per Jataka Chandrika and Vriddha Parashara) crossed the degrees of Saturn (Mruthyu Bhaga) in cancer it had caused sufferings to Jupiter related significances. The Sama yoga between Jupiter and Saturn happens here in transit and Jupiter is the causative for damage to significances (karaka) in her horoscope – as one can make out from the explanation I have given in the article.

Another trigger factor is Rahu which was encroaching her Moon and Mars in natal chart. After checking Mars in the natal degree of Jupiter as a trigger (occurred on 22nd sep), by oversight I jumped to check Rahu’s movement in my article. When it crosses Moon or Mars in Leo, the current inauspicious dasa- bhukthi- anatharam would be over. So I thought Rahu would go without harming her. But within this dasa etc period, the current trigger happened in which Rahu and Moon came in same degrees in 6-8 axis on 5th Dec evening when other planets (Mars, Saturn and Jupiter ) also had a coupling in 24 degrees approximate. Mars was in direct opposition to Saturn’s natal Mruthyu Bhaga degree at that time.

Therefore it is superfluous to arrive at death on maraka alone. In my analysis of 100 horoscopes for my thesis, I have taken up the timing of death and found that Rahu / Ketu Dasa or antar dasa would be there in 35% cases whereas Maraka lord was in 30% cases, Badhaka lord in 15% cases and 8th lord in 19% cases. The trigger in transit must be there with reference to natal degrees of inauspicious planets.

(cont'd)

jayasree said...

Beyond all this, the basic cause is Prarabdha. This is best understood in twin births where one dies and another lives long. For example take these charts of twins – 1st born in August 3, 2016, 7-46 AM Mumbai, and 2nd born at 7-47 AM. Of these, the 2nd born was sick from birth and died on October 13th, 2016 while the first one is healthy and living. The death time is convincing, but why the 1st child managed to be healthy is a question. Prarabdha karma is the best and the only explanation. Though horoscope shows combinations, they are all probabilities. One’s Prarabdha karma finds a map in execution of itself in the different permutation combinations that are available.

Herein let me add another issue of whether longevity is fixed or not. There are as many as 8 ways to calculate longevity and each may give a different result. They are (1) Nisarga, (2) Pindayurdaya (3)Aamsayu, (4) Rasmija,(5)Kala chakra (6) Nakshatra dasa, (7) Vimshottari (dasa- bhukthi), (8) Ashtakaka varga ayurdaya. The years calculated from each of these may be different for one, but one is likely to undergo gandam when the ayus indicated by one of them comes to an end. It is also possible that one dies in one of these which is subject to reasons such as collective karma (influenced by another) or one’s own karma needed to go for a change. Only Kala purusha knows when and what. As far as we are concerned we can indicate the standard dialogue that one has to cross such and such period.

In JJ’s case, the incidents happening in the ADMK in aftermath of her death and the hurry with which the projects resisted by JJ are being a green signal and Modi’s asservadham to Sasikala and Aseervadham Achary’s liaison with Natarajan – all these go to show that JJ needed to be exited from the scene along with Cho (or else Cho would have to take on Modi and BJP) for the kind of new scenes of intense Kali (yuga) that are taking place. JJ was a different genre who wanted to go in straight forward way and was ready to fight for years in the court. But Sasikala is not that type and Modi knows how to use people. I won’t be surprised if Sasikala is let free in the DA case.

Srinivasan Ramakrishnan said...

Dear Madam,
அதிமுகவின் எதிர்காலம் எப்படி இருக்கும்?

ஜே -வின் அண்ணன் மகள் தீபா வரவேண்டும் என்று சமூக வலைய தளங்களில் நிறையபேர் சொல்கிறார்கள். அவரும் அரசியலுக்கு வர தயார் என்று சொன்னதாக செய்திகள் வருகிறது.

தீபா அரசியலுக்கு வருவாரா?

harinee said...

It must have been very difficult to write this post.Find it hard to even look at her picture without getting tears.Its such a blow and only now media seems to be discovering her virtues.
Definitely there is a mystery around her death which cannot be denied. One aspect which is not clear is why was there no connection with her brother or his family all through. Yes the family is making news now but I cant see any drive from JJ also to maintain this relationship.
The familial balance which she sought from Sasikala could have been fulfilled by the brother's family but for some strange reason she avoided them. And I dont think it was because of her circle preventing it because she did have relations with her old school teachers,Cho and others.
Hopefully her Poes Garden residence is made a memorial else really don't care who takes over the rest inheritance wise or party-wise.
I think her Karma of allowing people to plunder in her name during the marriage episode got to her.Even if we assume her innocence, fact is it was her tutelage which allowed the ransacking and suicide of the famous jeweller.
I am not a fan of Modi but will lose all respect if he makes a compromise with the ones who betrayed her.

Raghuraman said...

Ms. Harinee,

My 2 cents on the point that you raised as why JJ did not connect with her family.

Going by what Actor Sivakumar spoke that she told his son Karthi that he should marry as per the wishes of his parents and going by actress radha statement that JJ asked her that whether her husband is ok for her to come and campaign the election shows that she valued family relations more and might have longed to have such connects in her life. If you listen to her voice during her visit to hospital to meet Cho, it is more like a brahmin slang and caring as how
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4NSop2WYUg.

I feel she kept them away so that they are not affected and get into trouble. She may not want anyone from her family to join politics and suffer like her.

Sujatha K said...

Ma'm, do you see possibility of Jayalalitha's neice Deepa taking over the reins of AIADMK from Saikala and her gang? Currently the party lacks charisma and maybe Deepa as blood relative of Jayalalitha can at least partially fill the gap

Kudanthaiamudhan said...

The predictions given in May 9th was based on the horoscopes of both the big leaders of the parties in close neck to neck race for power during may 16th election in T N state.Now the other left over leader whose horoscope appeared in your blog on April 2011, indicates the similar situation on account of venus dasa- rahu bhukti. Venus in 12th sign in the constellation of jupiter the lord of 6th and 9th signs. 12th sign indicates the end of life while rahu is in 2nd sign maraka at the constellation of ketu which is in 8th the sign of longevity at saturn sign, the lord of 7th and 8th, the sign of maraka and 8th sign of longevity. This rahu bhukti runs from 7th feb 2014 to 7th feb 2017. Now saturn peyarchi is going to take place in forward transit from viruchiga to dhanusu on 26th jan 2017. Hence this adverse dasa-bukthi and transit of saturn might ring the bell for final call. This could most probably happen before Feb mid or failing which it could take place during the saturn final peyarchi on 26th oct 2017. i did not want to name the leader of concerned horoscope for obvious reasons. kindly let me know your valuable thoughts for enlightenment of the readers of this blog.

Kudanthaiamudhan said...

In the above posting, i missed adding the line " For mirgsresha star-2 pata in rishaba
rasi, saturn is now transiting on forward motion on 26th jan 2017 for the subject horoscope of the concerned leader from 7th to 8th sign- Ashtama sani in his longevity
sign of 8th from moon .Hence we have to arrive such conclusion based on above facts.

Sheela said...

Dear Mam

i don't think its Modi's aseervadham. its a norm to touch head for condolence, you can see BJP leaders & even Modi touching Pankaja Munde head during her father's death. it was a rumour that Cho & Modi were behind sasikala exit some time back.
as friend cho or modi cannot help JJ beyond a point as she is so accustomed with her
service n reached a point where she could not manage which has been her nemesis always.

jayasree said...

@ Srinivasan Ramakrishnan,

If you have horoscopes of AIADMK and Deepa Jayaram, please provide. I could not get the launch time of ADMK from the internet. With the launch date found in the internet let me share the following views.

ADMK was launched on 17th Oct 1972. On that day Moon was in Makara Rasi. By around 5 PM in the evening Moon shifted to the next star Avittam in the same rasi. Till then it was in Thiruvonam. In the absence of launch time, we have to rely only on Moon sign.

A crucial feature of that date is that Sun was shifting to Thula rasi (Libra) on that date and therefore on a shoonya thithi and in Balya avastha. Sun is in neecha in Rasi and Navamsa but is exalted in Shodasamsa. From the moon sign 8th lord (sun) and 9th lord (Mercury) join in the 10th house. These two are in neecha in Navamsa. Saturn is the karma lord and must be checked for profession or the mission. It is in retrogression in the 5th house. By retrogression it is deemed to have moved to Meshas where it is a neecha planet. But in Shodasamsa Saturn (like Sun) also gets exalted. Two exalted planets in mutual opposition cancel out the exalted effect of each other. This would happen in Saturn Maha dasa.

The point is Saturn Maha dasa must have started by now for ADMK! If the party was launched before noon on that day the party would face its nemesis between now and before 2019. If the party was launched around 5 - 6 in the evening, it would face its nemesis in Saturn - Ketu period which starts sometime in 2019. The party found its peak in the just ended Jupiter dasa.

For Deepa, from her talks it is seen that she was born on the day before Deepavali in 1974. That happens to be Nov 12th, 1974. That date does not show a promising future for her in politics.

jayasree said...

@ Ms Harinee,

It was not a difficult post to write, for I have thought about JJ's past long ago. You see, the purpose of astrology is not prediction but understanding the mind of Kala purusha on what was one's past that comes manifest in the present janma and based on that what could be one's future after leaving the present birth. In other words, it is about Tri-kala gyana. Strong personalities like JJ, Modi and MK and their life and activities do show some patterns and parallels connecting them to a past karma. I am watching Modi's every evolving action and reaction to them and getting confirmed on what I visualised about his past birth.

Coming to the views on your comment, I have left many clues in the article on what JJ's past karma was like. The after-incidents involving Sasikala and the treacherous MLAs do confirm what I wrote about her past.

There is a Kural on 'Sei nandri maravaamai" - not forgetting the help / favour done by one. All these ADMK MLAs own their post to JJ only. At a time when they must be mourning and speaking high of her, how they shifted to signing songs on sasikala! For forgetting the 'sei nandri', there is no Prayaschitta. This idea is given in Mahabharata also. Karna stuck to Duryodhana for that sake only. One may say there are many among the MLAs who were originally picked up by sasikala and now they are paying back their "nandri". If that is the case, then Sasikala is the Mother of all deceit done JJ who trusted her. The Tri-kala knowledge and knowledge of Karma is only to make one behave properly. The realisation that someone like JJ who enjoyed the support of the masses had to swim across the sea of fire all the time, it must come as a lesson for all on how one must be careful about their thoughts, words and actions. There is absolutely no such realisation on the part of Sasikala & co and the MLAs and leaders of ADMK.

On JJ distancing herself from brother's family, it is again her fate but something influenced by Sasikala. From the present happenings, it is possible to believe the theory that Sasaikala successfully isolated JJ from her family members. The same she didn't do for her friendship with Cho and other friends. A clever sasikala knows who would be her threat and who would not be. The family connection threatens her hold on JJ's wealth, whereas none of JJ's friends are likely to be in the know of her finances. Moreover it is the adopted son and his marriage that put the wedge between JJ and her brother - it is natural to expect. Brother would have cautioned her well but JJ under the influence of Sasikala could have thrashed him. In JJ's horoscope, the 3rd house (signifies friends too) is occupied by 6th lord Mars and joined with saturn in the Bhava. Lagna lord Mercury joining the 3rd lord in the 9th house ans aspecting this combination shows a passion for friend who was actually a combination of a foe (6th lord Mars) and nemesis (8th lord Saturn).

I agree with you that her house must be made a memorial and her wealth must be converted into a public trust. She herself never wanted riches, a view revealed by her costume / make up designer, one Mr Sholai who also worked for MGR. He said long ago that JJ never wanted to wear jewels and wanted to dispose her houses in those days itself. But somehow everything stuck to her and she was embroiled in controversies - which I now strongly believe was due to the bad company she kept.

jayasree said...

@ Mr Raghuraman,
Kudos your 2 cents opinion. Possible.

jayasree said...

@ Ms Sujatha,

Please read the reply to Mr Srinivasan Ramakrishnan.

jayasree said...

@ Mr Kudanthai Amudhan,

I have already written about the current period of MK in an update at the time of last election in the article "Will Karunanidhi come back" The link is http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.in/2011/04/will-karunanidhi-come-back-astrological_12.html

The relevant part of my idea on his present period can be read at the end of that article under the caption 'Updated on 13-04-2016'

I had written in that update "From November 1st 2016 to January 19th 2017 Mars and Saturn are going to aspect Rahu and his 2nd house.That would be a very bad time for him."

Even as recent as on 15th Dec, MK crossed a trigger phase when transit Mars overran natal Ketu at which time he was given tracheotomy. The next trigger time is 24th - 25th Dec, when Venus (Badhaka lord, dasa lord, 22nd Drekkana lord) would be in his natal 7th (maraka) and in exact degrees with Saturn (8th lord) and Jupiter (6th lord) and aspected by them. The current transits are not helpful to him.

Further on around the middle of January (15th) once again another trigger happens with Mars, Saturn and Jupiter coming in almost equal degrees of natal Moon. At that time transit Moon joins Rahu in his 2nd house.

From Karmic angle, MK has outlived his purpose. Whatever he is suffering by way of disease are just the start of the manifestation of his karma which would go in full steam in his next birth. Even if he manages to cross Rahu Bhukthi, the next Bhukthi of 6th lord Jupiter is not helpful.

jayasree said...

Dear Ms Sheela,

I used the word Aseervadham as a satire. In Tamil tradition it is asservadham and also means finishing one. Modi and his team must be having a plan to grab the cadres of ADMK somehow and soon. It is impossible to think that Modi has a soft corner for Sasikala given the news about his caution to JJ that led her to drive sasikala out. Perhaps by his gestures to sasikala on the funeral day, he has made the ADMK leaders think that he supports the importance given to her while in fact he must be aware that sasikala at the helm would make ADMK suffer its fall.

jayasree said...

Happened to read this in https://vimarisanam.wordpress.com/2016/12/16/%E0%AE%9C%E0%AF%86-%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%B1%E0%AF%88%E0%AE%B5%E0%AF%81-%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%B1%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%81-%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%86%E0%AE%B2%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%BF/#comments

Don't know who had said this, but the points raised by this writer is true and must be echoing in everyone's mind.

” 2020-ம் ஆண்டில் ஜெயலலிதா மரணம் அடைந்திருந்தால்,
இப்படி வேறு ஒருவரை முன்னிறுத்தும் வேலைகளைத்
தொடங்கியிருக்க மாட்டார்கள். ஆட்சி நிறைவடைய இன்னும்
நான்கரை ஆண்டு காலம் இருக்கிறது. அதுவரையில் இந்த
அதிகாரத்தை விட்டுக் கொடுக்க இவர்கள் விரும்பவில்லை.

அதிகாரத்தைத் தக்க வைத்துக் கொள்ள இவர்களை விட்டால்
வேறு யாருமில்லை. தற்போது அதிகாரத்தில் இருக்கும் அதிகப்படியான அதிகாரிகளை இவர்கள்தான் நியமனம் செய்தார்கள். அதனால் அவர்கள் சொல்வதைக் கேட்டு கட்டுப்பட்டு நடக்கிறார்கள். மீதமுள்ள ஆட்சி காலத்தைப் பயன்படுத்தி எவ்வளவு சம்பாதிக்க முடியும்
என்றுதான் பார்க்கிறார்கள்.

ஜெயலலிதா பிறந்தநாளன்று எவ்வளவு சுவரொட்டிகள்
ஒட்டினார்கள்? அவர் இறந்தபோது எவ்வளவு சுவரொட்டிகள்
ஒட்டப்பட்டிருந்தன? அப்படியானால் இவர்கள் அனைவரும்
பதவிக்காக இவ்வளவு காலம் நடித்துக் கொண்டிருந்தார்களா?

அவர் இறந்த அடுத்த நொடியிலேயே காட்சிகள் மாறிவிட்டன.
ஆளுநர் மாளிகையில் பதவியேற்கிறார்கள். அவர் சிறையில்
இருந்தபோது, ‘நம்மைப் பார்ப்பார்’ என்ற காரணத்துக்காக, அழுது புரண்டு ஒப்பாரி வைத்தவர்கள் எல்லாம் அமைதியாக இருந்தது ஏன்?”

என் அம்மாவுக்கு வைத்தியம் பார்க்கிறேன் என்றால், யாருக்கும்
சொல்ல வேண்டிய அவசியம் இல்லை. அவர் ஒரு மாநிலத்தின்
முதலமைச்சர். 75 நாட்கள் தொடர் சிகிச்சையில்
இருந்திருக்கிறார். அவருக்காக ஓட்டுப் போட்ட
ஒவ்வொருவருக்கும் அவரது உடல்நிலையைப் பற்றி அறிந்து
கொள்ளும் உரிமை இருக்கிறது. ‘மருத்துவர்களோடு பேசிக்
கொண்டிருக்கிறார்’ என்று சொன்னார்கள். அதைப் படம் எடுத்து
வெளியிட்டிருக்கலாம். அப்படி வந்திருந்தால் இந்தக் கேள்விகள்
எழுந்திருக்காது. அப்போலோவில் என்ன நடந்தது என்றே
தெரியவில்லை.

‘அவருடைய வெற்றிக்கு சசிகலா துணையாக இருந்தார்’
என்கிறார்கள். இதை ஏன் ஜெயலலிதா உயிரோடு
இருக்கும்போது, இந்தத் தலைவர்கள் தொலைக்காட்சிகளில்
பேசவில்லை? ‘

அவர் செய்தது மிகப் பெரிய தியாகம்’ என்கிறார்கள்.
ஒருவருக்குத் தோழியாக இருப்பதே தியாகம் என்றால்,
இந்த நாட்டுக்காக செக்கிழுத்து, சொத்துகளை இழந்து கடைசி
காலத்தில் மண்ணெண்ணெய் விற்று இறந்து போன வ.உசிக்கு
என்ன பெயர்?

செல்வந்தராகப் பிறந்து சொத்துகளை எல்லாம் ஏழை
மக்களுக்குக் கொடுத்துவிட்டு காவி வேட்டி அணிந்து வாழ்ந்த
முத்துராமலிங்கத் தேவருடைய தியாகத்துக்கு என்ன பெயர்?

ஆறு ஆண்டுகளுக்கு மேலாக தேச விடுதலைக்காக சிறையில்
இருந்தார் காமராஜர். அவரை நாம் என்ன பெயர் சொல்லி
அழைப்பது?

ஜெயலலிதா உடலைப் பார்த்து, அப்பாவி மக்கள்தான் கதறியபடி
நெஞ்சில் அடித்துக் கொண்டு அழுதார்கள். ஓர் அமைச்சர்
கதறியதைக்கூட கண்ணால் பார்க்க முடியவில்லை. ஓர்
எம்.எல்.ஏ, ஒரு மாவட்டச் செயலாளர் என ஒருவராவது
மொட்டை அடித்தார்களா?

சாமி வரம் கொடுக்கும் வரையில்தான்
நல்ல சாமி என நினைத்து இவர்கள் வாழ்ந்திருக்கிறார்கள்.

உளவியல்ரீதியாக இந்த அமைச்சர்கள் எப்படி இதைக் கடந்து
போகிறார்கள். அவர்களுக்கு நிம்மதியாகத் தூக்கம்
வந்திருக்கலாம்.

அன்று இரவு முழுக்க என்னால் தூங்கவே
முடியவில்லை. தூரத்தில் இருந்த நமக்கே இப்படி என்றால்,
அருகில் இருந்தவர்கள் ஜெயலலிதா இறப்பை, ஒரு பெரிய
இழப்பாகவே காட்டிக் கொள்ளவில்லை.

அப்படியானால், அவரது மரணம் முன்கூட்டியே
திட்டமிட்டு நிகழ்த்தப்பட்டதா என்ற கேள்வி எழுகிறது.

அப்படித்தான் யோசிக்க வேண்டியதாக இருக்கிறது. 1969 பிப்ரவரி
3-ம் தேதி அண்ணாதுரை இறந்து போனார். உடனே யாரும்
பதவியேற்கவில்லை. தற்காலிக முதல்வராக நெடுஞ்செழியன்
பதவியேற்றார். அவரை அடக்கம் செய்த பிறகே, முதலமைச்சராக கருணாநிதி தேர்வு செய்யப்பட்டார்.

எம்.ஜி.ஆர் இறந்தபோதும் தற்காலிக முதல்வராக
நெடுஞ்செழியனை அறிவித்தார் ஆளுநர் குரானா. அதன்பிறகு
கட்சி எம்.எல்.ஏக்கள் கூடி வி.என்.ஜானகியை தேர்வு செய்தார்கள்.

தற்போது ஜெயலலலிதா மரணத்துக்குப் பிறகு ஏழு நாள்
துக்கத்தை அரசு அறிவித்தது. அதன்பிறகு, ஓ.பி.எஸ் தேர்வு
செய்யப்பட்டிருந்தால், எல்லாம் இயல்பாக நடந்திருக்கும்.


(contd)

jayasree said...

உயிர் போன அடுத்த நொடியில் ஆளுநர் மாளிகையில்
பதவியேற்பது என்பது என்ன மாதிரியான மனநிலை?
அதைக் கற்பனை செய்துகூடப் பார்க்க முடியவில்லை.
ஒரு மனிதனாக தொலை தூரத்தில் இருந்து
பார்க்கும்போது எப்படி நினைப்பது?

இந்தக் காட்சிகளைப் பார்க்கும் ஒரு மனிதன் எப்படிப்பட்ட
மனநிலைக்கு ஆளாவான்?
இருக்கும் வரையில் புரட்சித் தலைவி அம்மா, டாக்டர்,
தங்கத் தாரகை, இதய தெய்வம் என்றெல்லாம் அழைத்தீர்கள்.

இறந்தவுடன், செல்வி ஜெயலலிதா என்கிறார்கள்.

யார் மரணம் அடைந்தாலும், எப்படி நடந்தது என எல்லோரும்
கேட்பார்கள். அதுபோன்ற ஒரு விசாரணைகூட வேண்டாம்
என்றால் எப்படி?

‘அதிகாரம் மிக வலிமையானது’ என அம்பேத்கர் சொல்வார்.
ஆனால், அதிகாரம் மிகக் கொடுமையானது என்பது
ஜெயலலிதாவின் இறப்பின்போதுதான் உணர முடிகிறது.

ஜெயலலிதா அவர் உயிரோடு இருந்த வரையில்,
மத்திய அரசின் நீட் தேர்வு, சரக்கு சேவை வரி(ஜி.எஸ்.டி),
உணவுப் பாதுகாப்பு மசோதா, உதய் மின் திட்டம் ஆகியவற்றைக்
கடுமையாக எதிர்த்தார். காரணம். ‘மாநில உரிமைகளுக்காக
நிற்கின்ற கட்சி அ.தி.மு.க. மாநில நலனை பாதிக்கும் இதுபோன்ற திட்டங்களை ஏற்க முடியாது’ என அறைகூவல்
விடுத்தார் ஜெயலலிதா.

அடுத்த ஒரு வாரத்தில் இந்த நான்கு திட்டங்களிலும்
எதிர்ப்பில்லாமல் தமிழக அரசு இணைந்துவிட்டது.
கட்சியின் தலைவர் எதிர்த்த ஒன்றுக்காக, பொறுப்பை ஏற்றுக்
கொண்ட ஓ.பி.எஸ் கையெழுத்துப் போடுகிறார்.

ஒருவேளை அவர் சிகிச்சை முடிந்து மீண்டு வந்திருந்தால், இதையெல்லாம் எதிர்த்தது போல் நடித்தீர்களா எனக் கேள்வி கேட்டால், ஜெயலலிதாதான் பதில் சொல்லியிருக்க வேண்டும். அவர்கள் எதிர்த்த ஒன்றுக்கு கையெழுத்து போடுகிறீர்கள் என்றால்,

அவர் திரும்பி வர மாட்டார் என முடிவு செய்துவிட்டதாகத்தானே அர்த்தம்.

மருத்துவமனையில் சேர்த்த இரண்டாவது நாளிலேயே, அடக்கம்
செய்யப்பட்ட இடத்தில் மார்க் பதிவு செய்தார்கள். இப்போது அதே இடத்தில்தான் அவரது உடல் வைக்கப்பட்டிருக்கிறது. எதைப் பற்றியும் கவலைப்படாமல் இதுகுறித்தெல்லாம் கேள்வி
எழுப்பாமல் எப்படிக் கடந்து போக முடியும்?

மிகுந்த வலியோடுதான் இந்தக் கேள்விகளை எழுப்புகிறேன்.

யாரிடமும் கேட்க வழியில்லாமல் எனக்குள் நானே கேட்டுக்
கொள்கிறேன். இவ்வளவு காலம் ஒரு மனுஷியை நேசித்ததாகக்
காட்டியது எல்லாம் வேடமா? ஒரேநாளில் வேறு ஒருவரின்
படத்தை நெஞ்சுக்குள் எப்படி செருக முடிந்தது?
இதை தூரத்தில் இருந்து பார்ப்பவர்கள் எப்படி எடுத்துக் கொள்ள வேண்டும் என எதிர்பார்க்கிறார்கள்”

jayasree said...

JJ assaulted even after her death - by the media. On Sunday night my place lost electricity and internet connection. They were resumed only on the evening of Friday. Nearly for 5 days we were without power and mobile or internet connection. The mobile data did work for most of the time. Compared with last year's flood, we received electricity on the 3rd day itself after the floods. But what the media including Economic times is saying? They say that OPS has outdone JJ, that he is quick and lauds what not. No politician is heard finding fault with the current administration for the restoration works and no one cared to give a photo op at the scene of devastation to question the Govt on what it had done. But last year, right from the word go, every politician was abusing JJ and the media - both main stream and social, were building stories after stories on how JJ was not doing anything. As people at ground zero, we could see the difference between the works done last year and this year and also how the ADMK had slid to a low by allowing the detractors belittle JJ in the current disaster.

Sheela said...


Dear Madam

ok!
as you say Admk leaders are belittling JJ and projecting her friend as Moolavar
and JJ as urchavar. One thing new tobe boss is a very shrewd & dominant to make everyone turn towards her & sing her chorus. i thinks she will gain on shortterm only.

It was somewhat consoling to know JJ relatives doing rituals in Srirangapatna.
hope as u said she takes rebirth in Srirangam live a whole life to her satisfaction.
Meanwhile is dying in margazhi means we reach a horizon very near to vaikundam?

Nandha said...

I am very much surprised that no opposition party is against sasikala. Even when JJ was there, sasi group had approached DMK through back channel and think rajathi ammal and co have personal rapport with sasi and co. She even once visited the furniture showroom run by rajathi amma and ironically the DMK procured more sarakku from Midas distilleries during 2006-2011 period, so there might be business deals and DMK would have benefited during JJ period because of sasikala, that is why they are keeping quiet. The tentacles of Sasi and Co is far outreached when compared to DMK's first family. The next 4 years is going to be very difficult.

There is a plea that state elections and general elections to the centre must be carried out simultaneously. If it is so, then we can save one year and in 2019, we have elections. but i think after MK's exit stalin might give good governance as he is capable of doing lot of ground works and sort out issues.

When YSR died, chandrasekar rao grabbed the opportunity and underwent fast and carried his program of separate telengana and succeeded.

It is the right time that some leader of political party would carry out state wide agitations against liquor. It would be a big blow to sasi and co group when total prohibition is carried out and their revenue will be affected to some extent if not fully, but no leader has guts to start agitation. THis man natarajan is friend to vaiko, MK and so on and that is why they are silent.

I do not know why the supreme court is making this much delay in pronouncing the final verdict in DA case. They should seize all the properties including kodanad and other properites and send the 2 women to RI of maximum permissible 7 years.

Among all print media, Dinamalar is giving truth and are against sasi and co.

Kavin Kathirarasu said...

Maam what changes could happen in next couple of years in TN politics????

jayasree said...

@ Ms Sheela,

I think Demonetisation is playing a role in the current scenario. With 21 MLAs needed, the DMK could have easily roped in a section of ADMK MLAs with money. But demonetisation has made them helpless and their money useless.

Within ADMK itself the MLAs must be struggling to protect their money for which, I think, Sasikala could have given some hope. Raids on Sekar Reddy and recovery of new notes from him shows that Sasikala and Co have some sources to change their money. The continuing raids on suspicion of hawala trading in Tamilnadu might have some connection to money laundering ways of these people. The allegiance to Sasikala can therefore be connected to some way to safeguard their money and also to use the rest of the term for looting.

IF Modi Govt is alert and keeps a check on them, these two issues would become impossible soon. Added to it is the fate of DA case. At hindsight it is obvious that Jayalalithaa has unknowingly allowed this monster to grow - whose rise threatens the very principles of corrupt free governance that she wanted to promote. Let us see how good or bad is the destiny of Tamilnadu people.

Your next view :- Her relatives have done the Patthu (10th day) ceremony that is done in Brahmin families. Till the 10th day the departed Atman is supposed to be covered with 'Preta shareera'. That would be shed on the 10th day when the brothers and cousin brothers of the departed person do what is called "Kuzhi Tarpanam". By that the Atman is liberated from the Preta shareeram and gets prepared to join the subtle particles of Nature shared by her forefathers. This ceremony is a must. Even if the person had not attended the funeral, even if the person was not in good terms with the departed one, that person must do this for the one whose body particles (pindam) he shares from his father's side.


(contd)

jayasree said...

Elsewhere in this blogspot, I had written about how the 10 days after death are akin to 10 months' journey in the womb of the mother when the pinda shareeram of the person is developed. The 10th day ceremony is akin to making the atman be in the state where it was, before entering the womb of the mother to form an embryo. The 11th and 12th days are akin to the 2 month stay in the body of the father, in his sperm. The relevance of brothers and cousin brothers of the father's side come from this fact of association with the subtle particles of a common male ancestor. By the 12th day, the atman gets into the state that it was before it entered the man's body (Read Panchagni Vidya in my blogs). By 13th day, the Atman had left its connection with bodily existence and on its own self in whatever region it is entitled to go.

On your query on death in Margazhi, no it is not so as per our scriptures. There is only the talk of Solar / light / Day / Uttrayana path and Lunar / smoky / night / Dakshinayana path. I have dealt with it in 2 articles "How Jiva is born as a human being" -http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.in/2016/07/how-jiva-is-born-as-human-being.html

and
"New discoveries around “Great Attractor” reveal that ‘Trishanku’ was once the Pole Star of the South!" - http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.in/2016/03/new-discoveries-around-great-attractor.html

From the latter article
//Taking insights from Upanishads, Acharya Ramanuja deduces that though people like Bhishma waited for the Northern path (Uttarayana) to reach the state of no-return-to-earth, for the knower of Brahman, there is no distinction between the solar and lunar paths. Bhishma had a choice to choose the time of leaving the earthy coils. So he waited. For others of his calibre, even if they die during the Dakshinayana and are therefore drawn by the Lunar path, they would ultimately attain Brahman once Uttarayana sets in. //

From the former article
//The first two places (where the departed Atma reaches) are Devayana and Pitruyana. The former is the solar path / light achieved by the knowledgeable ones who are engaged in meditation and austerity and who never return to earth for rebirth. The latter is the lunar path / smoke which is attained by people who are aware of good and bad and try to engage in austerities.//

Jayalalithaa's life shows that she comes under the 2nd category of Lunar path.

Just imagine what world her party men and the Mannargudi Mafia - who are not righteous - would get into. It is the third place - the seven hells! A reading of that article (first one ) at the present juncture will be more apt than anytime before - like the reading of Garuda purana after one dies.

jayasree said...

@ Mr Nandha

//I am very much surprised that no opposition party is against sasikala...//

The silence of the opposition parties, their trouping to meet Sasikala (Tha. Padian is a worst case) - all these are proof of what we thought were rumours - of some understanding between the ruling and opposition parties in getting a share in 'cutting' commission!! It used to be said that this 'cutting' was there in MK's period so that the opposition would remain quiet. It is even said that MGR also was doing that MK when he was in power. This cutting existed at all level as I can recall the 'cutting' rate of standard 10% we gave to the EB men for giving connection to my newly built house in 1988.

Problems arose when JJ came to power. MK could not digest doing politics with JJ and JJ did not give him any cutting any time at all in her period though cutting went scot free for her men in her first term. That was when she was a novice in politics and in power. I don't think she encouraged it in other tenures. I had a little doubt that she had some understanding with Stalin in the present term but she left soon.

Now Sasaikala is at the helm and she has already mastered that art of cutting. Her coterie is larger than that of MK's family and she is capable of outwitting MK himself as we can see how he has cleverly cheated JJ for 3 decades! All corpse eating wolves have joined together to plunder the State and its people. It is sad and also an irony that JJ has given them the State in a platter with 4 and a half years to loot.

(contd)

jayasree said...

// but i think after MK's exit stalin might give good governance as he is capable of doing lot of ground works and sort out issues. //

No high hopes on Stalin. On the other hand I am expecting BJP to make some inroads. May be the next election would give rise a hung assembly. But the one after that could go to the BJP.

On prohibition, unless BJP brings it out at national level, it is not possible. Never expect it with Sasikala group or MK family as they are the principal suppliers of liquor.

On Sasikala's fate in DA case, do you have the horoscope of Sasikala? The wiki article says that her date of birth is 29th Jan 1956. If this date of birth is true, what do you think about the presence of Mars, Sat and Rahu in the 4th house from Moon sign?

jayasree said...

@ Kavin Kathirarasu,

I dont have the horoscope of Tamilnadu. But one clue is available from the upcoming year, Hevilambi. Rulers will be adharmic in that year - "Vendhar aniyaayamE purivar".

jayasree said...

Added a cartoon from Dinamani at the end of the article.

@ Mr Nandha. Dinamani is pro-JJ but Dinamalar is not so.

jayasree said...

In a TV interview actress Sachu, her long time friend had said that JJ had taken very less food and was without food for long hours. In that interview she had said that JJ had told them (Sachu and others met her over a lunch in 2012) she used to take a piece of bread and coffee for breakfast and some vegetables for lunch before leaving for Secretariat. After that she had remained without any food till the next morning's breakfast. For a diabetic patient like JJ, this dietary regimen is certainly very harmful.

If as Sasikala claims that she took care of JJ, is this the way she cared about JJ's diet? Anyone in her place must have convinced her or made every effort to make her follow the correct eating regimen. It is surprising that JJ followed such a regimen though she must have been aware of the kind of food regimen at short intervals that a diabetic must take. The only answer I can think of is that JJ must have been made to think that Nature Medicine by eating vegetables and fruits would be a cure for may ailment. But it wont work in people already suffering from diabetes. Did Sasikala make her believe (through some doctor's advice and the like) that such a scanty food regimen wont harm her though her primary aim was to reduce weight? Certainly a caring person or a blood relative in Sasikala's place would not have allowed JJ follow that food regimen. In hindsight, it looks imperative that we must know what food regimen and medicines JJ was given for all these years, especially after 2011, when Sasikala was sent out on suspicion of having given her a slow poison.

Sachu's narration on JJ's food habit starts from 17-17 minutes in the video in this link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxOoST49U-o

jayasree said...

Was JJ given wrong medicines and steroids that led to the deterioration of her health? Dr Shankar, Acupuncture specialist who treated her at the time of last elections says so. Read here (in Tamil)

https://vimarisanam.wordpress.com/2016/12/24/%E0%AE%9C%E0%AF%86-%E0%AE%85%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B3%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%A3%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95/

Dr Sivakumar, son in law of sasikala's brother was giving her such treatment all these years.

jayasree said...

5 questions in the treatment given to Jayalalithaa (From http://www.vikatan.com/news/tamilnadu/76336-are-these-medicines-caused-jayalalithaas-death-the-mystery-behind-apollos-mail.art?artfrm=read_please)

1. அப்போலோ மருத்துவமனையில் ஜெயலலிதா அனுமதிக்கப்படும்முன், சில நாட்களாக காய்ச்சலால் அவதியுற்ற நிலையில், சுயநினைவு இழந்த நிலையில்தான் மருத்துவமனையில் அனுமதிக்கப்பட்டாரா? ஆம் எனில், சுயநினைவு இழக்கக் காரணங்கள் யாவை? சிகிச்சைக்காக அவரை அனுமதித்ததில் காலதாமதம் ஏற்பட்டதா?

2. முதல்வரின் உறுப்புக்கள் நன்றாகச் செயல்பட்டநிலையில், மருத்துவர்களின் தீவிர கண்காணிப்பில் இருக்கும்போது இதயத் துடிப்பு முடக்கம் (cardiac arrest) வருவதற்கான காரணங்கள் யாவை? அது திடீரென ஏற்பட்டதா அல்லது மெல்ல ஏற்பட்டதா? இதைக் கண்டறிந்தபின், உடனடி சிகிச்சை அளிக்க காலதாமதம் ஏற்பட்டதா?

3. அப்படி நின்ற இதயத் துடிப்பைச் சீராக்க எவ்வளவு நேரம் எடுத்துக் கொள்ளப்பட்டது? 30 முதல் 40 நிமிடங்கள் ஆனது என பத்திரிகை செய்தி தெரிவிக்கிறது. அப்படியெனில், மூளைச் சாவைத் தடுக்க முடியாது. முதல்வருக்கு எக்மோ கருவி பொருத்தப்பட்டது உண்மையா? மருத்துவரீதியாக மூளைச்சாவைத் தடுக்கவே எக்மோவைப் பயன்படுத்துவார்கள்.

4. முதலமைச்சரைக் காப்பாற்ற முடியாமல் போனதற்கு மறைமுக காரணிகள் (underlying conditions) இருந்ததாக, அப்போலோ மருத்துவமனையின் அறிக்கையில் வெளியானது. அவை என்ன என்பது விளக்கப்படவில்லையே ஏன்? உதாரணம். முதல்வருக்கு இருந்த சர்க்கரை நோய் பாதிப்பு.

5. இவை எல்லாவற்றையும்விட, குறிப்பிட வேண்டிய சில விஷயங்கள் இருக்கின்றன. மனஅழுத்தத்தைக் குறைப்பதற்காக புரோதயோடன் (prothiaden) 75 மில்லி கிராம் மருந்தை ஜெயலலிதா எடுத்ததாகச் சொல்கிறார்கள். இந்த மருந்தை அவர் எடுத்துக் கொண்டாரா? சர்க்கரை நோயைக் கட்டுப்படுத்த வெளிநாடுகளில் தடை செய்யப்பட்ட, பயோகிளிட்டசோன் (pioglitazone), ரொசிகிளிட்டஜொன் (rosiglipazone) போன்ற மாத்திரைகள் அவருக்குக் கொடுக்கப்பட்டதா? புரோப்பிடனும் பயோகிளிட்டசோனும் இருதயத் துடிப்பை பாதிக்கும் என மருத்துவ ஆய்வுகளில் தெளிவாக குறிப்பிடப்பட்டுள்ளது. நேற்று ஆங்கில தொலைக்காட்சி ஒன்றில், 'ஜெயலலிதாவுக்கு சர்க்கரை வியாதியைக் கட்டுப்படுத்தத் தவறான மாத்திரைகள் கொடுக்கப்பட்டன' என செய்தி வெளியிட்டுள்ளது. புரோப்பிடன் கொடுத்தாலே இருதயத் துடிப்பில் மாற்றம் ஏற்படும். 'அப்போலோ மருத்துவமனையின் இ-மெயில்களில் இந்தத் தகவல் கசிந்துள்ளது' என அந்தத் தொலைக்காட்சி செய்தி வெளியிட்டுள்ளது - என விவரித்த மருத்துவர் புகழேந்தி,

There is one more question - this one from me. Administering potassium beyond certain quantities in the blood stream could kill a person very soon with a cardiac arrest and without leaving any traces of symptoms of the foul play. Dr Sivakumar, sasikala's relative was taking care of JJ's medication for years and it continued in Apollo also according to reports. Going by the silent hijack of the party and through that Governance by Sasikala, there is every reason to suspect what was Siva kumar doing in Apollo, where was he during the last moments of JJ. This suspicion comes from the other suspicion that her body was embalmed. If a body is embalmed, there is no use in conducting post mortem after that assuming the body is exhumed on the order of the court.

If it is true that JJ died of cardiac arrest on 5th night, and her body was embalmed after that, both these events are highly suspect. I heard from a source in GH that it is an accepted practice to do a cosmetic embalming so that the body can be kept for a few days. But JJ's body was in state for only a day. Within 24 hours of her reported death, her body was buried. Why that hurry if her body was given embalming, assuming it to be a cosmetic one?

Even if the court orders a postmortem, nothing would come out if the body is embalmed. So all these suspected things have been done with someone having medical knowledge - and that someone had given her steroids and banned medicines all along.

harinee said...

Adding to above why did she look so fresh? I have never seen a dead person face look so clean and fresh.Especially someone who has spent 72 days in a hospital with so little food.Look at any leader's dead body even people who had instant deaths like Indira Gandhi or Abdul Kalam look wizened and tired with discoloration.
Unfortunately self serving ADMK has lost conscience and so has our PM else by this time an investigation would have started.Nothing will come out unless the Srirangam diety makes it happen.

harinee said...

Why did she need antidepressants? Antidepressants really dont help in short or long term

jayasree said...

Dear Ms Harinee,

It is no use investigating Apollo days and treatment by Apollo. Why she developed an acute condition that got her admitted in Apollo must be brought under scanner. The current furore trying to nail Apollo is of no use. Her medical condition from previous years when she was under the care of Sasikala and her relative Dr Sivakumar must be brought into focus. Only then the investigation could bring out the conspiracy theory. The investigation must start from there and end up with whatever had happened to her in Apollo. I think the central Govt is well aware of the gravity of the accusation around JJ's health condition and also the political situation in the State. It is a wait and watch approach and chip in at the right time. On JJ's medical condition, the matter is in court and the next hearing is on 9th. So any Govt would like to watch how this takes shape through court.

If you can read Tamil, read the views of the Acupressure specialist who treated JJ recently. https://vimarisanam.wordpress.com/2016/12/24/%E0%AE%9C%E0%AF%86-%E0%AE%85%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B3%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%A3%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95/

JJ had been given steroids, perhaps without her knowledge. Its all because she trusted Sasikala and her nephew Dr Sivakumar very much. The steroids had done her in.

jayasree said...

Why JJ looked fresh? She was given embalming. Cosmetic embalming is done to preserve the body for a few days for display. There are specialists in this in Madras GH, I am told by my doctor friends. In all probability they had done cosmetic embalming. This can not survive for more days, but only for a few days. If you have noticed, JJ's face started losing the colour and shine by that evening itself. The body was kept open during the day. That could have brought out the decay faster by evening. In all probability she would have died of cardiac arrest the previous evening. As preparations had to be made, cosmetic embalming could have been done immediately.

jayasree said...

Dear readers,

I have added a link on top of the side-bar titled as "other side of Jayalalithaa". This is in Tamil and appears every day in the Tamil version of The Hindu. One Mr Narasimhan is writing a series on Jayalalithaa based on his interaction with her. He was a good friend of Jayalalithaa. He says that JJ considered him as a close friend and one with whom she has interacted a lot on Hindu philosophical issues. He once sought her permission to write a biography in her. She has told him that he can wait but wanted him only to do the biography when she decides to have one on her. But that day never happened. However after her death, Narasimhan had taken the onus of writing on JJ as he has known or seen her. So far only 7 chapters have been written over a week now, and it is continuing on a daily basis.

This series does contain some interesting info on JJ. For example, contrary to popular opinion that she blindly follows astrology, she has presented herself as some one who does not believe astrology so easily. She was not superstitious also. There are other topics too. JJ has spoken to him about why she always preferred to have others seated a little away from her and why she and sasi garlanded each other on the occasion of her 60th birthday puja in the temple which led to lot of mud slinging on her character and status. By clicking the link one can get into The Hindu web page and read all these in older articles by clicking the key word given at the end of the article.

jayasree said...

On reading these articles and after seeing / hearing sasikala speak in the ADMK meeting with lot of difficulty in properly pronouncing Tamil words, I got a doubt whether JJ really treated Sasi as a close friend or whether she shared many of her thoughts with Sasi. For intellectuals, it is difficult to talk with someone who has limitations / difficulties in talking. Sasikala can not speak a Tamil sentence properly. She can not pronounce 'Zha'. She has the slang of something like Madras Tamil. It is difficult to believe that an intellectual like JJ can have an equal one - to one interaction on all or many matters with sasi. JJ's relationship with Sasi must have been purely that of a master and servant and not of a bosom friend with whom one can connect with on all issues. Simply put, JJ could not have talked to Sasi like how she had talked to Narasimhan!

JJ has left everything on house administration and personal needs to be handled by sasikala. She herself has mentioned the former one (household needs / works) in her interview with Simi Garewal and the latter one (personal needs) was mentioned by Sasi herself in her first speech to ADMK party. Sasikala did not mention anything other than that as her interaction with JJ.

Beyond that JJ did not seem to share a close relationship with her. She has considered Narasimhan (who is writing now the articles on her)as a close and intellectual friend. It is impossible that JJ had such intellectual interaction with sasi who has difficulty even in refined speech. In a news report published in Vikatan, Deepak (JJ's brother's son)recalled his association with sasi. In that he recalled the time Sasi was sent out by JJ. On those 3 months that Sasi was outside, he and sasi used to got to a temple to pray that JJ take her back. On those trips to temple, he said that Sasi used to express worry about what JJ had eaten or taken care of herself. The language he quoted was something which educated people can not approve - sasi had said "athu (meaning JJ) enna thinnuccho, athukku onnum theriyathu .... " like talks.

It was really shocking to read those quoted words addressing JJ as 'athu' (that) and not 'akka' which sasi expresses in public. This also shows that JJ never allowed her to go beyond taking care of her food and personal needs and taking care of her home. Sasi was never an intellectual friend, and even if JJ had tried to connect with her so, it would have become difficult.

JJ had remained secluded even inside her house. Sasikala had taken advantage of that and dealt with partymen and got things her way while JJ had remained oblivious. The handling of Deepa's marriage also looks something scripted by Sasi & co. While Deepa was being told that JJ was doing all the preparations, JJ was kept out of the loop and was never even informed of that marriage. Certainly the 30 year association that sasi boasts of is a case of writing her own script under the nose of JJ with JJ remaining locked inside her room, reading or seeing files.

Vasanth said...

Aaravalli Soorvalli story of mahabharatha times, can shed some light regarding JJ's previous life. It happened around lower side of the nilgiris, tamilnadu-karnataka border.
http://www.vanabadrakaliamman.tnhrce.in/history.html
Aaravalli, Sooravalli and Veeravalli sisters names sounds similar with JJ's mothers, Ambujavalli, vedavalli and padmavalli. Her original name is komalavalli.
The sisters hated males and ruled the region without any male support. Somewhat similar to JJ's character.
Pandavas came here and finally defeated them. The daughter of aravalli called palvarisai is married to allimuthu, padava's son. This girl was later named as Valamma.
JJ's Kodanadu bangalow is situated exactly the same part of the hill, where it is said that aaravalli kottai is still present inside the dense forest sections.

Sridhar said...

Amma punished after death in DA case. Is this also karma or political game to punish Sasikala? Your views madam

jayasree said...

Mr Vasanth,

Sravalli, sooravalli story does not suit here. Infact Alli Rani story can be linked with a story of Arjuna mentioned in Mahabharata and that happened in the SE coast of TN near Srilanka with further corroboration from the legends of Paravai people. But JJ's past life could have occurred somewhere in the erstwhile kingdom of Mysore that had Bangalore (Prapanna Agrahara) within its limits. It could have happened anytime before a couple of hundred years ago.

jayasree said...

Mr Sridhar,

What I was worried about came out true in the conviction in DA case. Yes, it is in the praarbdha of JJ to have suffered this disgrace posthumously while not having been corrupt by herself. She used to say 'Makkalaal naan, makkalukkakave naan' (I am by the people and for the people). She sacrificed her name and integrity even after death for the sake of people to stop sasikala from coming to power. The monster she had grown in her backyard, without even knowing that it is a monster came out after her death. That she had to sink with it in ignominy is part of a design by which she wiped out a huge backlog of prarabdha karma. I will write a blog on this soon tomorrow as it is past midnight here now

jayasree said...

I dont think the verdict would have been the same had JJ been alive now. I definitely sense a plan to use this as a means to stop Sasikala who looked unstoppable. Sasikala invited such a verdict as she refused to listen to the signals to stop meddling with party and crave for the CM's chair.

Vasanth said...

@Jayasree,
Allirani and Aaravalli are both different characters. People easily misconceive this because of their nomenclature.

jayasree said...

@ Vasanth,

But you brought in Mahabharata times and you linked them with Mahabharata characters. Please show the material from Mahabharata.

The only such link that I know from Mahabharata is that of Chitrangadha whose place was Manipura located in SE TN as per Mahabharata description. She married Arjuna and got a son named Bhabruvahan. She is regarded as Alli Rani who had under her control the Parathavas known for their pearl diving profession. Read my article http://jayasreesaranathan.blogspot.in/2013/11/some-insights-into-form-and-worship-of.html

Vasanth said...

@Jayasree,
Sorry. Never had the time to read through the longest epic in the world. With regard to this, there is an old Tamil movie named "Aaravalli" released in 1957, got my attention. I've provided the links. This adds credibility to this story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgsQTDGuqLc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaravalli

I surprised to see JJ and Sasi entering the scenes at 3:20 and surprised even more when the ADMK ministry was introduced a few seconds later.

jayasree said...

@ Vasanth,

Aravalli is a fiction and not true story. But the incidents are common in kingdoms in olden days. That is why the Dejavu like feeling.

Jayalalithaa's life shows a kind of previous karma of having usurped a kingdom stealthily by cheating a queen. JJ's death and after incidents show this. Till her death, JJ did not realise that Sasikala was there with her all these years to usurp her place and claim the country she was ruling. I personally don't think that JJ was corrupt (read her biography that is coming now in The Hindu tamil version), but this prarabdha karma stuck to her in the form of sasikala whose association brought disrepute to her even after death. For the kind of appropriation that sasikala did in party and Govt affairs through that, JJ also had to bear responsibility. That is why though she was held in high esteem while alive, the DA case verdict that came after her death wiped out all such honours from History.

This is something rare that a person discharged karma even after death. Only if her previous karma was so strong with far reaching effect on a country and masses, her death could affect the land as it happened now and the Sasikala phenomenon so grudged as it happened now. But being an evolved soul by the end of her birth as Jayalalithaa, and for having done some remarkable good deeds such as cradle baby scheme, rain water harvesting and rejuvenation to tsunami victims, Jayalalithaa discharged the bad karma of wrt to a friend in past birth, by bearing an ever lasting bad name in the DA verdict which ultimately helped to keep off sasikala finally, from affecting the masses. What JJ could not and did not do in life, she did after death by eliminating sasikala from influencing the land and in the procees bearing the cross eternally as a convict which she is really not.

By this she had shed most negative karmas that obstruct further elevation of her in spiritual realms - by a rare phenomenon of posthumous discharge of karma. Her life must be remembered by all in how karma operates.

Astrologically speaking, her Bhava chart was different and has combinations of conviction related to the 9th house - the house of legacy. Perhaps this is indicative of the legacy of DA case she suffered posthumously.

Jai's Page said...

Dear Madam
I browsed your blog page by chance and got hooked up last 2hrs and is interesting and suits to my long quest of understanding Karmic connections to us and its influence to our lives.. I liked the ending you gave for JJ next birth to be born in Srirangam and pass a quiet life. Keep waiting.

seema burman said...

I saw this page today . I feel Kaikeyi was a mother who made wrong choices due to the influence of her maid Manthara. Kaikeyi was then hated by her own son Bharata who said he would never want a mother like her. Kaikeyi wanted to be the queen Mother pushing away Kaushalya . But it never happened. Jayalalitha was known as a good Amma by thousands because that is what the soul wished and worked hard for. She was misguided by her maid Sasikala. Man+thara Man is ruled by moon. Sasi means Moon. Jaya wanted her Bharata so she adopted a grown up boy. Jayalalitha prevented Sri Rama from sitting on throne. Jaya was prevented from sitting on throne . Aren't the similarities pointing to a drama of Ayodhya? Was she Kaikeyi and Sasikala Manthara of Ayodhya? If so then people of TN must throw away Sasikala immediately.

Seema Burman

jayasree said...

Nice observation, Ms Seema Burman. Kaikeyi analogy was to drive home the point that such kind of past karma must have existed with Jayalalithaa and only then she could have had a life like she had. Such kind of instances of women taking lead or interest in capturing power directly or by proxy had existed during monarchical times. But it is odd to find such happenings to occur in modern day democracy. Jaya's life and after-life incidents that we are witnessing now are rare but reminders of such past. Sasikala was more dangerous than Manthara in that she had ruthlessly used Jaya and her proximity to her to serve her selfish purposes and there is scope to believe that she eliminated Jaya in her bid to realise her goals.

I am saying this at this point of time when TN is running on deficit budget. The freebies doled out by Jaya had suck the resources of the state. But Jaya managed to balance it by liquor sales. But this time, Jaya promised to bring prohibition and therefore had to look for other sources to get income for the state and the freebies. She announced in her election manifesto that she would bring sand and granite quarrying under the state and that means huge money for the state exchequer. But before she could do that she was gone. Now the govt in power had further reduced liquor sales and that means more dents in income to the state. But that deficit had not been augmented as there is not in sight any effort to bring sand or granite quarrying under the state control as envisaged by Jaya. Instead the sand mafia kingpin was reported to have met sasikala's family member a couple of days ago. This makes me wonder whether there is any link between the sand mafia and sasikala with a some mutual understanding that by eliminating Jaya both stand to benefit. With state's finances in doldrums and no hint on bringing sand mining under the state, which Jaya would have definitely done had she been alive, I wonder whether Jaya was deliberately eliminated by sasikala mafia in connivance with sand mafia.

Sridhar said...

Supreme Court dismissed revision petition from Karnataka towards recovery of 100 crore fine, implying that Amma is not convicted technically due to her demise. This may pave the way for construction of her memorial as well as keeping her portrait in Government offices - Media

jayasree said...

Sasikala - family's over reach is also a proof that JJ had been taken for a ride and cheated nicely by them for decades. Posthumous events show who actually indulged in corruption and amassing of wealth. So anyone having conscience will have to think twice before accusing JJ as a culprit in this case.

Shiv said...

Her fall began when she jailed Kanchi Acharyas,at the behest of extremely powerful people.